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Boyceofsummer · 12-17-2009, 12:17 PM

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Too Bad The Chiefs Are Married to Todd Haley

by Matt Conner

Let me be very, very clear from the outset: the Kansas City Chiefs should not make any changes to their head coaching situation for 2010. Now with that said, let me write an entire article that seems to point to the opposite.

My primary thoughts at this time of day are spurred by the ridiculous buzz swirling current NFL head coaching wanna-bes salivating over all kinds of wonderfully desperate situations. The Redskins, Buccaneers, Bills, Bears, Browns, Raiders, Cowboys and more all sit with neon "vacancy" signs up (or pending ones, it seems) and the likes of Mike Shanahan, Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden, Mike Holmgren and hot assistants like Leslie Frazier (Minnesota's defensive coordinator) are all in the spotlight. And that's with a few weeks still left of the regular season.

It's the sort of rumors that fans of losing franchises love to read about, considering there's not much on-field product worth pondering. It's also something Kansas City fans must remember from this time a year ago when "what ifs" floated around Arrowhead like Rocky Mountain cloud formations. But unlike last year, this season's coaching candidates are absolutely off the charts in terms of experience, expertise and sheer reputation. And that's a shame the Chiefs cannot be in on this bunch.

More after the jump:

Star-divide
Of course, the Chiefs won the grand prize last year, when the front office candidates available looked like this year's coaching hires. Scott Pioli was the head of the class, the best in the business, and when he shook hands with Clark Hunt, every KC fan (and NFL fan for that matter) knew there were much better days ahead in the City of Fountains. But the same couldn't be said of Pioli's choice for head coach.

Now, the Chiefs must sit this off-season with Todd Haley while the most beautiful head coaching class in a long time struts their stuff for teams in need. It's the equivalent of being over the salary cap next summer while having to passively watch the upcoming free agent class of 2010 in the NBA, when LeBron, Chris Bosh and others change permanent addresses. When such options are available, one can't help but wonder what it would look like for a Cowher or Shanahan to walk the sidelines of the red and gold.

We've seen unending posts both favoring Todd Haley and slamming the first-year HC. There are valid points to be made on all sides. But we are married. You don't change head coaches that quickly, so we have what we have and the absolute worst move would be to can Haley at this point. He deserves to grow with the job, to see this thing through and fans should understand that. That doesn't mean, however, that we don't look at the current dating scene and wonder what it'd be like to be single again. It's a fine class and even as a non-participant, it should be fun to watch it unfold.

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I've never seen anyone, outside of Madden or Tecmo Bowl, go for it from his own 28.

That REALLY deserved a thread of its own.

Hell, even Frank Gansz wasn't that ****ing stupid.

Wait?

I have seen teams to for it at their own 28, but usually its deep in the 4th and its now or never....

So yes it has happened, but not in the 3rd freaking qtr....

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Yep and if there was blocking, it might of worked... Very stupid call when it fails, gutsy as hell when it works...

Dont forget Herm lost two, yes two timeouts on the same ****ing challenge... The only person in NFL history to do such....

It was never gutsy. Even if it works, it's dumb as ****.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Yep and if there was blocking, it might of worked... Very stupid call when it fails, gutsy as hell when it works...

Dont forget Herm lost two, yes two timeouts on the same ****ing challenge... The only person in NFL history to do such....

I'm sorry, that is not even CLOSE to being as STUPID as a fake punt on your OWN 28!

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'm sorry, that is not even CLOSE to being as STUPID as a fake punt on your OWN 28!

When it's still a one score game. And it was after this point that the wheel completely fell off the wagon.

It's not a coincidence.

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

With total control is a great point. It's a recipe for failure for anyone, IMO.

If The Chin would come here and work for Pioli, I'd trade Haley for him in about .000002 seconds, and this organization would instantly be considerably better.

Just my opinion...

I dont think the dude with the beer tray on his face is willing to come in and just coach. Which will cost him dearly. When has it ever worked?

Also he might be better, but is he willing to change to compete with the Colts and Saints type of teams???

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2009, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

When it's still a one score game. And it was after this point that the wheel completely fell off the wagon.

It's not a coincidence.

I think I need to start a new thread.....

"what guidelines did Clark Hunt set upon Pioli for the season?"

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Wait?

I have seen teams to for it at their own 28, but usually its deep in the 4th and its now or never....

So yes it has happened, but not in the 3rd freaking qtr....

Wait just a minute.

"Going for it" and "FAKE PUNT" are two completely different animals.

"Going for it" implies that your team is probably impossibly down on the scoreboard and needs to get a score in any way, shape or form.

"FAKE PUNT" from your own 28 SCREAMS incompetence.

Let me ask you this: You bagged on Herm and Dick Curl for years.

When was the last time either had a QB with a rating of less than 40 in two straight weeks?

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

I think I need to start a new thread.....

"what guidelines did Clark Hunt set upon Pioli for the season?"

I think you should start a thread with a public poll that reads:

Right now, is Haley a better coach than Herm?

Make sure the poll is public.

Fish · 12-17-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Wait just a minute.

"Going for it" and "FAKE PUNT" are two completely different animals.

"Going for it" implies that your team is probably impossibly down on the scoreboard and needs to get a score in any way, shape or form.

"FAKE PUNT" from your own 28 SCREAMS incompetence.

Let me ask you this: You bagged on Herm and Dick Curl for years.

When was the last time either had a QB with a rating of less than 40 in two straight weeks?

Ouchie.... That stings.....

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

I think I need to start a new thread.....

"what guidelines did Clark Hunt set upon Pioli for the season?"

Why?

That's just speculation.

Herm vs. Haley would not involve speculation.

Personally, I think it's VERY clear who's the better Head Coach.

And it's not even close.

LaChapelle · 12-17-2009, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by LaChapelle
The problem is going to be assistant coach turnover. The raiding if the big names get jobs could be massive.

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

Nothing to worry about with that happening here.

Okay
If the big name coaches raid staffs. Those staffs have to be replaced and the Chiefs are looking to replace coordinators. That makes the pickings as slim as when they picked the ones they got now.

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 06:01 PM

"I'm seeing progress [from Matt Cassel]." /Pioli on 810 earlier today/

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2009, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Wait just a minute.

"Going for it" and "FAKE PUNT" are two completely different animals.

"Going for it" implies that your team is probably impossibly down on the scoreboard and needs to get a score in any way, shape or form.

"FAKE PUNT" from your own 28 SCREAMS incompetence.

Let me ask you this: You bagged on Herm and Dick Curl for years.

When was the last time either had a QB with a rating of less than 40 in two straight weeks?

You wait just a minute... did you read what I posted? No way do you justify it in the 3rd qtr.... I was just commenting that you said it only happens in madden... When it does happen in the NFL just at different times... We cant argue when we agree Dane... It just doesnt work...

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2009, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

"I'm seeing progress [from Matt Cassel]." /Pioli on 810 earlier today/

Maybe Pioli's mission was to alienate the fans beyond belief and destroy the franchise?

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Maybe Pioli's mission was to alienate the fans beyond belief and destroy the franchise?

You mean finish the work started by Herm? /CP/

12-17-2009, 12:17 PM
Boyceofsummer That Doyle, he's a mean-un Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Salina, Kansas Casino cash: $10004900	Too Bad The Chiefs Are Married to Todd Haley http://fwix.com/share/55_c6b76c6022 Too Bad The Chiefs Are Married to Todd Haley by Matt Conner Let me be very, very clear from the outset: the Kansas City Chiefs should not make any changes to their head coaching situation for 2010. Now with that said, let me write an entire article that seems to point to the opposite. My primary thoughts at this time of day are spurred by the ridiculous buzz swirling current NFL head coaching wanna-bes salivating over all kinds of wonderfully desperate situations. The Redskins, Buccaneers, Bills, Bears, Browns, Raiders, Cowboys and more all sit with neon "vacancy" signs up (or pending ones, it seems) and the likes of Mike Shanahan, Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden, Mike Holmgren and hot assistants like Leslie Frazier (Minnesota's defensive coordinator) are all in the spotlight. And that's with a few weeks still left of the regular season. It's the sort of rumors that fans of losing franchises love to read about, considering there's not much on-field product worth pondering. It's also something Kansas City fans must remember from this time a year ago when "what ifs" floated around Arrowhead like Rocky Mountain cloud formations. But unlike last year, this season's coaching candidates are absolutely off the charts in terms of experience, expertise and sheer reputation. And that's a shame the Chiefs cannot be in on this bunch. More after the jump: Star-divide Of course, the Chiefs won the grand prize last year, when the front office candidates available looked like this year's coaching hires. Scott Pioli was the head of the class, the best in the business, and when he shook hands with Clark Hunt, every KC fan (and NFL fan for that matter) knew there were much better days ahead in the City of Fountains. But the same couldn't be said of Pioli's choice for head coach. Now, the Chiefs must sit this off-season with Todd Haley while the most beautiful head coaching class in a long time struts their stuff for teams in need. It's the equivalent of being over the salary cap next summer while having to passively watch the upcoming free agent class of 2010 in the NBA, when LeBron, Chris Bosh and others change permanent addresses. When such options are available, one can't help but wonder what it would look like for a Cowher or Shanahan to walk the sidelines of the red and gold. We've seen unending posts both favoring Todd Haley and slamming the first-year HC. There are valid points to be made on all sides. But we are married. You don't change head coaches that quickly, so we have what we have and the absolute worst move would be to can Haley at this point. He deserves to grow with the job, to see this thing through and fans should understand that. That doesn't mean, however, that we don't look at the current dating scene and wonder what it'd be like to be single again. It's a fine class and even as a non-participant, it should be fun to watch it unfold.
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