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Boyceofsummer · 12-17-2009, 12:17 PM

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Too Bad The Chiefs Are Married to Todd Haley

by Matt Conner

Let me be very, very clear from the outset: the Kansas City Chiefs should not make any changes to their head coaching situation for 2010. Now with that said, let me write an entire article that seems to point to the opposite.

My primary thoughts at this time of day are spurred by the ridiculous buzz swirling current NFL head coaching wanna-bes salivating over all kinds of wonderfully desperate situations. The Redskins, Buccaneers, Bills, Bears, Browns, Raiders, Cowboys and more all sit with neon "vacancy" signs up (or pending ones, it seems) and the likes of Mike Shanahan, Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden, Mike Holmgren and hot assistants like Leslie Frazier (Minnesota's defensive coordinator) are all in the spotlight. And that's with a few weeks still left of the regular season.

It's the sort of rumors that fans of losing franchises love to read about, considering there's not much on-field product worth pondering. It's also something Kansas City fans must remember from this time a year ago when "what ifs" floated around Arrowhead like Rocky Mountain cloud formations. But unlike last year, this season's coaching candidates are absolutely off the charts in terms of experience, expertise and sheer reputation. And that's a shame the Chiefs cannot be in on this bunch.

More after the jump:

Star-divide
Of course, the Chiefs won the grand prize last year, when the front office candidates available looked like this year's coaching hires. Scott Pioli was the head of the class, the best in the business, and when he shook hands with Clark Hunt, every KC fan (and NFL fan for that matter) knew there were much better days ahead in the City of Fountains. But the same couldn't be said of Pioli's choice for head coach.

Now, the Chiefs must sit this off-season with Todd Haley while the most beautiful head coaching class in a long time struts their stuff for teams in need. It's the equivalent of being over the salary cap next summer while having to passively watch the upcoming free agent class of 2010 in the NBA, when LeBron, Chris Bosh and others change permanent addresses. When such options are available, one can't help but wonder what it would look like for a Cowher or Shanahan to walk the sidelines of the red and gold.

We've seen unending posts both favoring Todd Haley and slamming the first-year HC. There are valid points to be made on all sides. But we are married. You don't change head coaches that quickly, so we have what we have and the absolute worst move would be to can Haley at this point. He deserves to grow with the job, to see this thing through and fans should understand that. That doesn't mean, however, that we don't look at the current dating scene and wonder what it'd be like to be single again. It's a fine class and even as a non-participant, it should be fun to watch it unfold.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

JFC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between GOING FOR IT and a ****ING FAKE PUNT!

And furthermore, the Chiefs were down ONE SCORE IN THE THIRD QUARTER!

****!!!!!

In a game that meant absolutely nothing at all. And if you're going to run a fake, that is when you run it. Cause no one with a sane mind would expect a team to run a fake from their own 28.

Meanwhile you seem to think it acceptable to go for it on your own 29 when you have the lead, 2 min left to go in a game and the best QB in recent history on the other team getting the ball should you not get it.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

In a game that meant absolutely nothing at all. And if you're going to run a fake, that is when you run it. Cause no one with a sane mind would expect a team to run a fake from their own 28.

You know why?

BECAUSE IT'S ****ING STUPID! NO ONE EXPECTS AN NFL HEAD COACH TO RUN A FAKE PUNT FROM HIS OWN 28 YARD LINE IN THE NFL!

And in case you missed it, it didn't work and gave the Broncos an EASY score.

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Especially when it is a coach who has what, 4 rings?

All coaches make idiot decisions at times. At least Haley did it with a team who was no where near the playoffs. Still a stupid decision but hardly impacting to the outcome of the season.

Out of curiosity, don't you love Trey Hillman? The single least important "coach" in any major professional sport...

Why the hate? It's not like Hillman's decisions affect the outcome of the season. The Royals would still suck.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 06:17 PM

Let me re-phrase that...

Only a ****ing moron goes for it on 4th and 1 from their own 29 when they have the lead against Peyton Manning.

Only a ****ing idiot would chance giving Mannig a 29 yard field to win the game.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Out of curiosity, don't you love Trey Hillman? The single least important "coach" in any major professional sport...

Why the hate? It's not like Hillman's decisions affect the outcome of the season. The Royals would still suck.

Wrong. Hillman actually had a team that was in 1st place and had a chance to have a respectable season. Haley was never in that position.

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Let me re-phrase that...

Only a ****ing moron goes for it on 4th and 1 from their own 29 when they have the lead against Peyton Manning.

Only a ****ing idiot would chance giving Mannig a 29 yard field to win the game.

Guess those rings provide a bit of a cushion.

Should a HC with no track record get the same benefit?

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You know why?

BECAUSE IT'S ****ING STUPID! NO ONE EXPECTS AN NFL HEAD COACH TO RUN A FAKE PUNT FROM HIS OWN 28 YARD LINE IN THE NFL!

And in case you missed it, it didn't work and gave the Broncos an EASY score.

I think I already said it was stupid. Instead of yelling, try readin more slowly. And yes it gave the Broncos an easy score. I don't think they had a "tough score" the entire game and we were already what, 3-8? Yea, we really ****ed the season on that move.

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Wrong. Hillman actually had a team that was in 1st place and had a chance to have a respectable season. Haley was never in that position.

.

A ML manager can swing a season maybe 4-5 games either way. GMs matter in baseball far, far more.

I'm not wrong at all. You bought into the mirage. The Royals were always a sack of shit.

Fish · 12-17-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Out of curiosity, don't you love Trey Hillman? The single least important "coach" in any major professional sport...

Why the hate? It's not like Hillman's decisions affect the outcome of the season. The Royals would still suck.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Guess those rings provide a bit of a cushion.

Should a HC with no track record get the same benefit?

All I said was all coaches, from SB winners to rookies make stupid decisions. What makes Uncle Bill's worse is it hurt his playoff position. Haley's only hurt some egos and my eyes.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

.

A ML manager can swing a season maybe 4-5 games either way. GMs matter in baseball far, far more.

I'm not wrong at all. You bought into the mirage. The Royals were always a sack of shit.

If only I had the desire to go back and get all the negatory you slung Hillman's way during games.....

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-17-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I think I already said it was stupid. Instead of yelling, try readin more slowly. And yes it gave the Broncos an easy score. I don't think they had a "tough score" the entire game and we were already what, 3-8? Yea, we really ****ed the season on that move.

So improvement that should be starting with week one, 2009, doesn't matter because we're just going to suck anyway?

So when does the suck end, and improvement begin? What's the "petegz timetable" if you please?

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

If only I had the desire to go back and get all the negatory you slung Hillman's way during games.....

As I manager, I hate him. You don't need to look for anything: Trey Edwards is an incompetent sack of ****ing shit. A team cannot win a championship with him at the helm.

I feel the same way about Haley, at this point.

I'm merely using Hillman to point out the double standard that you're using.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

So improvement that should be starting with week one, 2009, doesn't matter because we're just going to suck anyway?

So when does the suck end, and improvement begin? What's the "petegz timetable" if you please?

You're right. Haley is the first coach in NFL, no all of Pro-Football's history to make a decision he would not otherwise make had his team been contending.

My
Bad

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28

You're right. Haley is the first coach in NFL, no all of Pro-Football's history to make a decision he would not otherwise make had his team been contending.

My
Bad

Did you two have a private conversation?

His in-game decisions have been below a Herm Edwards level all year. Besides dropping the F-bomb, it's Haley's recurring theme.

And then he sounds pretty cool on Mondays and all is forgiven.

12-17-2009, 12:17 PM
Boyceofsummer That Doyle, he's a mean-un Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Salina, Kansas Casino cash: $10004900	Too Bad The Chiefs Are Married to Todd Haley http://fwix.com/share/55_c6b76c6022 Too Bad The Chiefs Are Married to Todd Haley by Matt Conner Let me be very, very clear from the outset: the Kansas City Chiefs should not make any changes to their head coaching situation for 2010. Now with that said, let me write an entire article that seems to point to the opposite. My primary thoughts at this time of day are spurred by the ridiculous buzz swirling current NFL head coaching wanna-bes salivating over all kinds of wonderfully desperate situations. The Redskins, Buccaneers, Bills, Bears, Browns, Raiders, Cowboys and more all sit with neon "vacancy" signs up (or pending ones, it seems) and the likes of Mike Shanahan, Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden, Mike Holmgren and hot assistants like Leslie Frazier (Minnesota's defensive coordinator) are all in the spotlight. And that's with a few weeks still left of the regular season. It's the sort of rumors that fans of losing franchises love to read about, considering there's not much on-field product worth pondering. It's also something Kansas City fans must remember from this time a year ago when "what ifs" floated around Arrowhead like Rocky Mountain cloud formations. But unlike last year, this season's coaching candidates are absolutely off the charts in terms of experience, expertise and sheer reputation. And that's a shame the Chiefs cannot be in on this bunch. More after the jump: Star-divide Of course, the Chiefs won the grand prize last year, when the front office candidates available looked like this year's coaching hires. Scott Pioli was the head of the class, the best in the business, and when he shook hands with Clark Hunt, every KC fan (and NFL fan for that matter) knew there were much better days ahead in the City of Fountains. But the same couldn't be said of Pioli's choice for head coach. Now, the Chiefs must sit this off-season with Todd Haley while the most beautiful head coaching class in a long time struts their stuff for teams in need. It's the equivalent of being over the salary cap next summer while having to passively watch the upcoming free agent class of 2010 in the NBA, when LeBron, Chris Bosh and others change permanent addresses. When such options are available, one can't help but wonder what it would look like for a Cowher or Shanahan to walk the sidelines of the red and gold. We've seen unending posts both favoring Todd Haley and slamming the first-year HC. There are valid points to be made on all sides. But we are married. You don't change head coaches that quickly, so we have what we have and the absolute worst move would be to can Haley at this point. He deserves to grow with the job, to see this thing through and fans should understand that. That doesn't mean, however, that we don't look at the current dating scene and wonder what it'd be like to be single again. It's a fine class and even as a non-participant, it should be fun to watch it unfold.
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