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Boyceofsummer · 12-17-2009, 12:17 PM

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Too Bad The Chiefs Are Married to Todd Haley

by Matt Conner

Let me be very, very clear from the outset: the Kansas City Chiefs should not make any changes to their head coaching situation for 2010. Now with that said, let me write an entire article that seems to point to the opposite.

My primary thoughts at this time of day are spurred by the ridiculous buzz swirling current NFL head coaching wanna-bes salivating over all kinds of wonderfully desperate situations. The Redskins, Buccaneers, Bills, Bears, Browns, Raiders, Cowboys and more all sit with neon "vacancy" signs up (or pending ones, it seems) and the likes of Mike Shanahan, Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden, Mike Holmgren and hot assistants like Leslie Frazier (Minnesota's defensive coordinator) are all in the spotlight. And that's with a few weeks still left of the regular season.

It's the sort of rumors that fans of losing franchises love to read about, considering there's not much on-field product worth pondering. It's also something Kansas City fans must remember from this time a year ago when "what ifs" floated around Arrowhead like Rocky Mountain cloud formations. But unlike last year, this season's coaching candidates are absolutely off the charts in terms of experience, expertise and sheer reputation. And that's a shame the Chiefs cannot be in on this bunch.

More after the jump:

Star-divide
Of course, the Chiefs won the grand prize last year, when the front office candidates available looked like this year's coaching hires. Scott Pioli was the head of the class, the best in the business, and when he shook hands with Clark Hunt, every KC fan (and NFL fan for that matter) knew there were much better days ahead in the City of Fountains. But the same couldn't be said of Pioli's choice for head coach.

Now, the Chiefs must sit this off-season with Todd Haley while the most beautiful head coaching class in a long time struts their stuff for teams in need. It's the equivalent of being over the salary cap next summer while having to passively watch the upcoming free agent class of 2010 in the NBA, when LeBron, Chris Bosh and others change permanent addresses. When such options are available, one can't help but wonder what it would look like for a Cowher or Shanahan to walk the sidelines of the red and gold.

We've seen unending posts both favoring Todd Haley and slamming the first-year HC. There are valid points to be made on all sides. But we are married. You don't change head coaches that quickly, so we have what we have and the absolute worst move would be to can Haley at this point. He deserves to grow with the job, to see this thing through and fans should understand that. That doesn't mean, however, that we don't look at the current dating scene and wonder what it'd be like to be single again. It's a fine class and even as a non-participant, it should be fun to watch it unfold.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

No, they did not. Not if they wanted to retain even a shred of legitimacy.

LJ essentially cut himself.

"The right 53" also could include a homophobic, broke dick RB?

. Yeah. Ok.

They had no choice. Trey Hillman even agrees.

He essentially cut himself last season too.....

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

JFC, give them credit for cutting LJ.

I would have given them the credit you're seeking IF Pioli had cut LJ anytime before the end of training camp.

But since he didn't, EPIC FAIL.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

He essentially cut himself last season too.....

Then why wasn't Pioli's first order of business to cut LJ?

He's a personnel genius, right?

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

He essentially cut himself last season too.....

Reconcile his actions with the regime's claims of assembling "the right 53." It's really not too tough.

Explain how they could have kept him on the team after his Twitter escapades and still kept the legitimacy of "the right 53."

orange · 12-17-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Reconcile his actions with the regime's claims of assembling "the right 53." It's really not too tough.

Explain how they could have kept him on the team after his Twitter escapades and still kept the legitimacy of "the right 53."

How are they going keep Bowe and the "legitimacy of 'the right 53'?"

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Then why wasn't Pioli's first order of business to cut LJ?

He's a personnel genius, right?

I never said it was a good thing to keep him, did I?

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Reconcile his actions with the regime's claims of assembling "the right 53." It's really not too tough.

Explain how they could have kept him on the team after his Twitter escapades and still kept the legitimacy of "the right 53."

Same way they kept him before. $40 mil invested tends to make owners timid on cutting people.

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

How are they going keep Bowe and the "legitimacy of 'the right 53'?"

It's a valid question. But if you believe that Bowe's transgression was due to diet pills, I'd say that's just a tiny bit more excusable than homophobic slurs and shredding the n00b HC, wouldn't you?

The two aren't comparable, in reality.

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Same way they kept him before. $40 mil invested tends to make owners timid on cutting people.

So "the right 53" would have been an explicit farce, correct?

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I never said it was a good thing to keep him, did I?

I'm not talking about YOU, I'm talking about both Pioli and Haley.

They're in charge, are they not?

If Pioli's such a GURU, why didn't he make the first order of business to cut LJ?

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Same way they kept him before. $40 mil invested tends to make owners timid on cutting people.

It wasn't a $40 million dollar investment.

It was a $19 million dollar investment, which was pretty much off the books by the start of this season.

So again, why didn't they cut him? He was a cancer, right? How could he possibly be part of the "Right 53"?

ncCHIEFfan · 12-17-2009, 09:00 PM

its amazing how people return here everyday to just find ways to complain.....if you have all the answers then you....wait....what do you do for a living?

orange · 12-17-2009, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

It's a valid question. But if you believe that Bowe's transgression was due to diet pills, I'd say that's just a tiny bit more excusable than homophobic slurs and shredding the n00b HC, wouldn't you?

The two aren't comparable, in reality.

His (Bowe's) transgression was HGH masking agents.

You have to be willingly dumb to look the other way.

The Chiefs will come up with some rationalization - or just not talk about it.

They could have done the same with LJ if they wanted to.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It wasn't a $40 million dollar investment.

It was a $19 million dollar investment, which was pretty much off the books by the start of this season.

So again, why didn't they cut him? He was a cancer, right? How could he possibly be part of the "Right 53"?

Allegedly his attitude was not a problem during camp. WTF do you want me to tell you?

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange

His (Bowe's) transgression was HGH masking agents.

You have to be willingly dumb to look the other way.

Were the reports and speculation not centered around Bowe's efforts to shed weight? No?

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