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Boyceofsummer · 12-17-2009, 12:17 PM

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Too Bad The Chiefs Are Married to Todd Haley

by Matt Conner

Let me be very, very clear from the outset: the Kansas City Chiefs should not make any changes to their head coaching situation for 2010. Now with that said, let me write an entire article that seems to point to the opposite.

My primary thoughts at this time of day are spurred by the ridiculous buzz swirling current NFL head coaching wanna-bes salivating over all kinds of wonderfully desperate situations. The Redskins, Buccaneers, Bills, Bears, Browns, Raiders, Cowboys and more all sit with neon "vacancy" signs up (or pending ones, it seems) and the likes of Mike Shanahan, Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden, Mike Holmgren and hot assistants like Leslie Frazier (Minnesota's defensive coordinator) are all in the spotlight. And that's with a few weeks still left of the regular season.

It's the sort of rumors that fans of losing franchises love to read about, considering there's not much on-field product worth pondering. It's also something Kansas City fans must remember from this time a year ago when "what ifs" floated around Arrowhead like Rocky Mountain cloud formations. But unlike last year, this season's coaching candidates are absolutely off the charts in terms of experience, expertise and sheer reputation. And that's a shame the Chiefs cannot be in on this bunch.

More after the jump:

Star-divide
Of course, the Chiefs won the grand prize last year, when the front office candidates available looked like this year's coaching hires. Scott Pioli was the head of the class, the best in the business, and when he shook hands with Clark Hunt, every KC fan (and NFL fan for that matter) knew there were much better days ahead in the City of Fountains. But the same couldn't be said of Pioli's choice for head coach.

Now, the Chiefs must sit this off-season with Todd Haley while the most beautiful head coaching class in a long time struts their stuff for teams in need. It's the equivalent of being over the salary cap next summer while having to passively watch the upcoming free agent class of 2010 in the NBA, when LeBron, Chris Bosh and others change permanent addresses. When such options are available, one can't help but wonder what it would look like for a Cowher or Shanahan to walk the sidelines of the red and gold.

We've seen unending posts both favoring Todd Haley and slamming the first-year HC. There are valid points to be made on all sides. But we are married. You don't change head coaches that quickly, so we have what we have and the absolute worst move would be to can Haley at this point. He deserves to grow with the job, to see this thing through and fans should understand that. That doesn't mean, however, that we don't look at the current dating scene and wonder what it'd be like to be single again. It's a fine class and even as a non-participant, it should be fun to watch it unfold.

orange · 12-17-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Were the reports and speculation not centered around Bowe's efforts to shed weight? No?

He took diuretics. They are banned because they're masking agents. His agent has admitted he took diuretics, but claims he didn't know. Nobody ever knows.

But the NFL bans them anyway because the NFL knows.

We don't know the timeline on this, and may never know, because of the NFL/NFLPA privacy policy. The test could quite possibly have been flunked pre-Haley.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 09:05 PM

All our problems would be fixed if Haley would quit overthrowing guys and Pioli would quit dropping passes

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

All our problems would be fixed if Haley would quit overthrowing guys and Pioli would quit dropping passes

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

He took diuretics. They are banned because they're masking agents. His agent has admitted he took diuretics, but claims he didn't know. Nobody ever knows.

But the NFL bans them anyway because the NFL knows.

Could also have been to mask marijuana use, could it not? Also not a positive, but not as bad, IMO, as insubordination or making homophobic slurs.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Could also have been to mask marijuana use, could it not? Also not a positive, but not as bad, IMO, as insubordination or making homophobic slurs.

To compare Bowe to LJ is idiotic.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

McDaniels wanted Cassel but Pioli got him. You were talking about McDaniels earlier so we can't pretend everything Pioli has done is bad.

orange · 12-17-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Could also have been to mask marijuana use, could it not? Also not a positive, but not as bad, IMO, as insubordination or making homophobic slurs.

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Originally Posted by petegz28

To compare Bowe to LJ is idiotic.

They'll give some version of "he's young, he screwed up, he's coming along."

Like they did for LJ until he said the magic word.

I think it was the insubordination that did him in; not so much the slurs.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

McDaniels wanted Cassel but Pioli got him. You were talking about McDaniels earlier so we can't pretend everything Pioli has done is bad.

That is STUPID ****ing logic.

If Denver had Cassel right now, we'd all be laughing our asses off.

Instead, the Chiefs are the joke.

Yeah, that's a good one.

ChiefsCountry · 12-17-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

McDaniels wanted Cassel but Pioli got him. You were talking about McDaniels earlier so we can't pretend everything Pioli has done is bad.

And the Chiefs would be in better shape if McDaniels had gotten his way. His Plan B has helped the franchise out and ****ed the Chiefs more.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That is STUPID ****ing logic.

If Denver had Cassel right now, we'd all be laughing our asses off.

Instead, the Chiefs are the joke.

Yeah, that's a good one.

nice flip-flop

orange · 12-17-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That is STUPID ****ing logic.

If Denver had Cassel right now, we'd all be laughing our asses off.

Instead, the Chiefs are the joke.

Yeah, that's a good one.

THIS, This, and this.

Thank you so much, Scott!

The card is in the mail.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

And the Chiefs would be in better shape if McDaniels had gotten his way. His Plan B has helped the franchise out and ****ed the Chiefs more.

I am not arguing that. But Dane was talking up how good McDaniels is and yet he wanted Cassel. Can't have it both ways,

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

To compare Bowe to LJ is idiotic.

Good thing I didn't, huh? Just responded to a poster who did.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Good thing I didn't, huh? Just responded to a poster who did.

I wasn't saying you did....quit being so sensative

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I am not arguing that. But Dane was talking up how good McDaniels is and yet he wanted Cassel. Can't have it both ways,

Bullshit, reerun.

The fact that he explored trading for Cassel does NOT negate the fact that Kyle Orton has played better than he has in his entire career, the Broncos offense has been very productive and the defensive moves have paid off handsomely.

You're a ****ing reerun when it comes to sports.

JFC.

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