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Old 12-20-2009, 06:32 PM   #1
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Do you think he didn't have a good game? 300 yards. Two TD's. 55% completion. Supposedly was the victim of many drops as usual.

Just don't see much wrong with that performance.
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Old 12-20-2009, 06:34 PM   #2
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Do you think he didn't have a good game? 300 yards. Two TD's. 55% completion. Supposedly was the victim of many drops as usual.

Just don't see much wrong with that performance.
He had a pretty solid game. Nothing awe-inspiring, and at least three total WTF throws, but if you're judging by the stat-line alone he had a good day.

Probably should have been more like 23/30 or so really.
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Old 12-20-2009, 06:59 PM   #3
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Do you think he didn't have a good game? 300 yards. Two TD's. 55% completion. Supposedly was the victim of many drops as usual.

Just don't see much wrong with that performance.
Right, because you didn't see it.

Cassel was his usual inconsistent self. Good throw. Dog shit throw. Rinse repeat.

The fact that this was his best game as a Chief is not a positive.
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:03 PM   #4
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Right, because you didn't see it.

Cassel was his usual inconsistent self. Good throw. Dog shit throw. Rinse repeat.

The fact that this was his best game as a Chief is not a positive.
I didn't see the game but from what Len was saying Cassel was playing really good. He threw some perfect passes that were dropped that Len was going ballistic over.

Without the drops his stat line would be 31/40 and probably over 400yds which is not bad.
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:08 PM   #5
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Right, because you didn't see it.

Cassel was his usual inconsistent self. Good throw. Dog shit throw. Rinse repeat.

The fact that this was his best game as a Chief is not a positive.
I disagree. Cassel is pressing. He is trying to throw the PERFECT pass every time he drops back because of the dropped balls IMO. He puts it in front of the WR, it's dropped. He puts it on the receiver, it's dropped. He puts it on the receivers back shoulder, it's dropped.

Cassel deserves criticism. But he ultimately can't be judged by this season. the bottom line is that he has ZERO consistency with his WR Corp, and most of that is on Haley.

I as well as anyone here, have no idea what Cassel can be. I was on this board listening to posters slam Trent Green all over the place after his first season...and he had better weapons, and KC gave up a first round pick for him!

Let's be realistic and hope that he has a bit more consistency in front of him, and around him throughout the entire offseason and beyond.
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:11 PM   #6
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I disagree. Cassel is pressing. He is trying to throw the PERFECT pass every time he drops back because of the dropped balls IMO. He puts it in front of the WR, it's dropped. He puts it on the receiver, it's dropped. He puts it on the receivers back shoulder, it's dropped.

Cassel deserves criticism. But he ultimately can't be judged by this season. the bottom line is that he has ZERO consistency with his WR Corp, and most of that is on Haley.

I as well as anyone here, have no idea what Cassel can be. I was on this board listening to posters slam Trent Green all over the place after his first season...and he had better weapons, and KC gave up a first round pick for him!

Let's be realistic and hope that he has a bit more consistency in front of him, and around him throughout the entire offseason and beyond.
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I don't disagree with much of this, but when I see a QB with accuracy problems, my faith dwindles very, very quickly.

He's what I thought he'd be to this point, unfortunately.
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:21 PM   #7
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I don't disagree with much of this, but when I see a QB with accuracy problems, my faith dwindles very, very quickly.

He's what I thought he'd be to this point, unfortunately.
I am of the opinion that the sloppy OLine play for most of the season is partly to blame for that. I definitely think Cassel needs to work on his accuracy deep, however again in my opinion it has a lot to do with consistency in the WR Corp.

IMO some of the issues are on Cassel. Some of the issues are with the WR Corp. Some of the issues are with the O Line. It's a team game, and in my 20+ years of playing and watching football, if I've learned one thing, it's that sloppy play from one group leads to sloppy play from another.
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I am of the opinion that the sloppy OLine play for most of the season is partly to blame for that. I definitely think Cassel needs to work on his accuracy deep, however again in my opinion it has a lot to do with consistency in the WR Corp.

IMO some of the issues are on Cassel. Some of the issues are with the WR Corp. Some of the issues are with the O Line. It's a team game, and in my 20+ years of playing and watching football, if I've learned one thing, it's that sloppy play from one group leads to sloppy play from another.
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Part of the line problems are on Cassel, did you know in his 1 year starting the Patriots line gave up more sacks than the year before and this year combined?
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:24 PM   #9
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Part of the line problems are on Cassel, did you know in his 1 year starting the Patriots line gave up more sacks than the year before and this year combined?
No question he holds the ball too long. Did he do that today?
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Part of the line problems are on Cassel, did you know in his 1 year starting the Patriots line gave up more sacks than the year before and this year combined?
Yep, part of the line problems are definitely on Cassel. No doubt about it.

And part of the line problems are because they are awful. And, there is no continuity as we have tried so many different combinations.
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Part of the line problems are on Cassel, did you know in his 1 year starting the Patriots line gave up more sacks than the year before and this year combined?
Agreed. He holds the ball a bit too long which he has improved as the season has went on. Either way, he's been behind a patchwork OLine all season long that would hurt any QB's acuracy in his first year with a new team, in a new offense, with a new coach, and a new WR Corp (nearly every week).
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Part of the line problems are on Cassel, did you know in his 1 year starting the Patriots line gave up more sacks than the year before and this year combined?

He's also starting to look at the pass rush instead of down field. He scrambled out of the pocket numerous times when the pass protection was adequate.
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IMO some of the issues are on Cassel. Some of the issues are with the WR Corp. Some of the issues are with the O Line. It's a team game, and in my 20+ years of playing and watching football, if I've learned one thing, it's that sloppy play from one group leads to sloppy play from another.
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