Chiefs Screw you Cassel - Page 10

chiefs1111 · 12-13-2009, 03:06 PM

I know Chambers still has too catch that pass but Cassel was awful today. Screw you Matt,Screw you!!!!!!!

TRR · 12-20-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I don't disagree with much of this, but when I see a QB with accuracy problems, my faith dwindles very, very quickly.

He's what I thought he'd be to this point, unfortunately.

I am of the opinion that the sloppy OLine play for most of the season is partly to blame for that. I definitely think Cassel needs to work on his accuracy deep, however again in my opinion it has a lot to do with consistency in the WR Corp.

IMO some of the issues are on Cassel. Some of the issues are with the WR Corp. Some of the issues are with the O Line. It's a team game, and in my 20+ years of playing and watching football, if I've learned one thing, it's that sloppy play from one group leads to sloppy play from another.
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bowener · 12-20-2009, 07:21 PM

I'm not really pro or anti-Cassel at this moment, but after today we have 48 drops on the season. Though it is not fully accurate to add them on to his stats, if you gave him 48 extra completions on the season his comp % rises to 65.74~%. That isn't bad at all... again though, a few drops a season always happen, but a rise in 11% completions or so is pretty dramatic.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-20-2009, 07:22 PM

I wonder what Milkman would say to Dawson being categorized as a "game manager"? MM actually lived and watched games in that era. It's very possible I could be wrong, but I'm going to go ahead and say that someone would be getting a new asshole or 3 for Christmas this year.

Pablo · 12-20-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Great, I saw the same stuff I see every week, he'll make 1 good throw followed by a horrid one.

The difference in this week and the past weeks is Cleveland is as bad as we are.

If you saw the exact same game from Cassel this week that you saw the last two weeks then you have eye tumors.

Mecca · 12-20-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

I am of the opinion that the sloppy OLine play for most of the season is partly to blame for that. I definitely think Cassel needs to work on his accuracy deep, however again in my opinion it has a lot to do with consistency in the WR Corp.

IMO some of the issues are on Cassel. Some of the issues are with the WR Corp. Some of the issues are with the O Line. It's a team game, and in my 20+ years of playing and watching football, if I've learned one thing, it's that sloppy play from one group leads to sloppy play from another.
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Part of the line problems are on Cassel, did you know in his 1 year starting the Patriots line gave up more sacks than the year before and this year combined?

**dirk digler** · 12-20-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

IMO some of the issues are on Cassel. Some of the issues are with the WR Corp. Some of the issues are with the O Line. It's a team game, and in my 20+ years of playing and watching football, if I've learned one thing, it's that sloppy play from one group leads to sloppy play from another.
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Yep.

Mecca · 12-20-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo

If you saw the exact same game from Cassel this week that you saw the last two weeks then you have eye tumors.

So you didn't see a few good throws and a few absolute what the **** was that throws?

**morphius** · 12-20-2009, 07:24 PM

Can't say I had much of an issue with the way he played today, other than the hail marry. Of course I'm really waiting till next year to judge the guy.

**dirk digler** · 12-20-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Part of the line problems are on Cassel, did you know in his 1 year starting the Patriots line gave up more sacks than the year before and this year combined?

No question he holds the ball too long. Did he do that today?

**doomy3** · 12-20-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Part of the line problems are on Cassel, did you know in his 1 year starting the Patriots line gave up more sacks than the year before and this year combined?

Yep, part of the line problems are definitely on Cassel. No doubt about it.

And part of the line problems are because they are awful. And, there is no continuity as we have tried so many different combinations.

Pablo · 12-20-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

So you didn't see a few good throws and a few absolute what the **** was that throws?

No. I did. I can just acknowledge when he makes about 25 good throws and maybe 4-5 WTF throws that he had a decent game.

**doomy3** · 12-20-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

So you didn't see a few good throws and a few absolute what the **** was that throws?

So, you don't see these from every single QB in the NFL every game you watch?

QBs make bad throws. All of them.

TRR · 12-20-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Part of the line problems are on Cassel, did you know in his 1 year starting the Patriots line gave up more sacks than the year before and this year combined?

Agreed. He holds the ball a bit too long which he has improved as the season has went on. Either way, he's been behind a patchwork OLine all season long that would hurt any QB's acuracy in his first year with a new team, in a new offense, with a new coach, and a new WR Corp (nearly every week).
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Mecca · 12-20-2009, 07:26 PM

Well that's part of the problem with the entire offense, offense is about consistency and they shuffle in and out so many guys...they add to the receiver and line problems.

**doomy3** · 12-20-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Well that's part of the problem with the entire offense, offense is about consistency and they shuffle in and out so many guys...they add to the receiver and line problems.

Yes. We know this. It is also hard for a QB to be productive in that kind of situation.

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