Whitlock: Why should the Chiefs bring Haley back?

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Hope all you want.

The facts are the facts.

So what positives do you have about the current team right now? You have beaten CP to death with your pessimistic attacks day after day. If you are such an objective expert, i would like to see the positive side of your analysis. Honestly, not trying to be a dick, i really do.

[Fish]

Well here's my Improvement List....

OLine improvement - The OLine actually has a little consistency at the moment. I didn't think they'd get much better after midseason, but they have. Slightly, but it's been enough to give the offense opportunities at least.

J. Charles - What a ****ing breath of fresh air after the LJ BS. Charles is quietly and persistently kicking ass since LJ pouted off to Cincy. Even when he's stuck with less than perfect run blocking, he's making things happen. And teams are noticing his big play ability. With LJ, I always expected 15-20yds tops from his best play of the game. With Charles, he can take any random snap to the house. His plays has done wonders for the rest of the offense(Other than Cassel...).

Succop - Mr. Irrelevant has proven he is not. Keep those kickoffs deep...

Hali - I include him only because I didn't think he'd contribute at all. But he is what he is. He's hit his talent ceiling, but despite that we can find uses for his skillset.

Dorsey - He's been great this season for what he's overcome. It's no coincidence that the game he's out, we let some punk nobody wear away all the grass at Arrowhead.

Aggressive 4th down calls - I know Haley has misused it numerous times, but I still love to see us leading the league in 4th down attempts. I love this mindset, and when used correctly I think this can make a real difference in keeping the offense unpredictable. With as little as we have to lose, why not...

Brandon Carr - I'm still not sold on Carr, but I have to say he has improved over the course of the season. He's got some Dale Carter "Big play or big mistake" moments still. But he might hang on in the league after all.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

So what positives do you have about the current team right now? You have beaten CP to death with your pessimistic attacks day after day.

**** off if you can't deal with a realistic opinion.

I said back in May 2008 that the Chiefs would be 2-14. I was correct.

I said in May 2009, they'd be 4-12. We're yet to find out if that was right or wrong.

The bottom line is that unlike you and a select few members, I am objective. I don't see "Unicorns and Rainbows" when I look at this roster.

I don't see a competent head coach who makes sound decisions and plays his best players.

I don't see a competent first time GM, who with more than 45 player acquisitions, has failed to bring any long-term stability to the roster at any position and have failed miserably to bring a playmaker at any position to the team.

If you believe otherwise, I'd like to see actual factual proof because I can back up each and every claim I've made.

Can you?

Originally Posted by Detoxing

If you are such an objective expert, i would like to see the positive side of your analysis. Honestly, not trying to be a dick, i really do.

Currently, the only true positive aspect of this team is the 2008 draft. Herm was given control of the draft and for the first time in decades, a foundation was put in place.

It's a damn shame that Scott Pioli couldn't add a ****ing thing to this foundation.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

**** off if you can't deal with a realistic opinion.

I said back in May 2008 that the Chiefs would be 2-14. I was correct.

I said in May 2009, they'd be 4-12. We're yet to find out if that was right or wrong.

The bottom line is that unlike you and a select few members, I am objective. I don't see "Unicorns and Rainbows" when I look at this roster.

I don't see a competent head coach who makes sound decisions and plays his best players.

I don't see a competent first time GM, who with more than 45 player acquisitions, has failed to bring any long-term stability to the roster at any position and have failed miserably to bring a playmaker at any position to the team.

If you believe otherwise, I'd like to see actual factual proof because I can back up each and every claim I've made.

Can you?



Currently, the only true positive aspect of this team is the 2008 draft. Herm was given control of the draft and for the first time in decades, a foundation was put in place.

It's a damn shame that Scott Pioli couldn't add a ****ing thing to this foundation.

Lol. Dude, you're hilarious.

If you predicted a 4-12 team, then why are you mad, lol? All of those issues you listed are symptoms of a 4-12 team. But you saw that coming right? So, you expected, a well coached, talented, 4-12 team? Uhm, ok. If we had everything going your way we wouldn't have a 4-12 season.

And i am not objective? YOU are not objective. Like i said i can put together a nice list of everything that is wrong with this team in conjunction with things that are right. Yet, you can only put together a list of shit that is wrong, yet you're objective? Uhm...ok.

And only a select few members have nothing positive to say about the team. Please......I am in the same exact boat as most on this forum. Just because no one else wants to debate with your stubborn, know-it-all ass doesn't mean that i am alone in my thinking.

I don't wear rainbow colored glasses, i know what this team is. We all do. Just because I don't join you in berrating this forum with negativity doesn't mean i don't know and acknowledge the teams many shortcomings. You pulled that conclusion out of your ass. I've never said this team is great, i never said this team was good. I never said i agreed with Pioli's draft, his F/A signings or Haley's game management. Did I? Yet you want to keep pretending like i've said such things in an effort to try to deter the fact that you are a pessimist. Face it dude. You act like im the first person to call you that.

I'm just calling it how i see it.

But of course, you're the only one who sees a bad team right? Because you know it all, and no positive comment could ever be right. Everything sucks in Dane's world. Pioli should be fired and this entire roster should just go with him after 14 games, right Dane?

And im sure YOU KNOW who Pioli attempted to sign, because you have Pioli's phone tapped, right? You don't know whether or not Pioli attempted to sign good vets. How many good vets would want to come to KC? Is the city enticing...eh no. The team enticing...eh no. The coach...eh, no. So, without overspending in your first year as a GM, how do you propose landing big F/A's?


would you like me to put together a list of shit that is wrong with this team? Will i be more objective in your eyes if i did that? hmm? Make you feel better?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Lol. Dude, you're hilarious.

You're a moron.

I'm done responding to your bullshit little questions.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're a moron.

I'm done responding to your bullshit little questions.

cuz you have nothing to say but the same ol retired ass bullshit you always spew. No surprise there