Chiefs Anyone think Denver is done for the year? - Page 12

Red Dawg · 11-23-2009, 12:34 PM

I think the Giants, Colts and Iggles will end thier playoff dreams.

orange · 12-27-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bane_58

So looking at that they need a win and help right? Maybe Im looking at it wrong cause thats what I said at first,but that has to be wrong since I'm not a donk fan.

I'll worry when YAHOO SPORTS starts awarding playoff spots instead of the NFL.

For now, I'm going to go with WIN AND IN.

Here's CBSSPORTS version. They're only going to broadcast the games - why should they know anything?

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/standin...yoffrace/seeds

**notorious** · 12-27-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bane_58

So looking at that they need a win and help right? Maybe Im looking at it wrong cause thats what I said at first,but that has to be wrong since I'm not a donk fan.

**** I don't even know any more.

I know that Baltimore beat Denver, has the same conference record as Denver. The only thing left to debate is the Jets and Denver's common opponents.

What gives?

**Bane** · 12-27-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

I'll worry when YAHOO SPORTS starts awarding playoff spots instead of the NFL.

For now, I'm going to go with WIN AND IN.

Normally I'd agree but the last bracket I saw after the Donk/Philly game showed your team at #7 just like that bracket shows.So thats why I went with you guys needing a win and help.Guess we'll see when the NFL updates theirs.

orange · 12-27-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bane_58

Normally I'd agree but the last bracket I saw after the Donk/Philly game showed your team at #7 just like that bracket shows.So thats why I went with you guys needing a win and help.Guess we'll see when the NFL updates theirs.

NFL.COM is fully updated.

They would have to CORRECT it, which is a whole different animal.

**notorious** · 12-27-2009, 07:59 PM

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=291227021

From the article:

The Broncos (8-7) are trying to avoid a major collapse after starting 6-0. They no longer control their playoff destiny and are tied with four other teams for the final two wild-card spots in the AFC.

We shall see, but that makes two sources just as reliable as the unreliable NFL.

**Gadzooks** · 12-27-2009, 08:01 PM

The Donks should fire their coach and trade Orton and Chicago's 1st round pick to Cleveland for QB Anderson.

**1ChiefsDan** · 12-27-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bane_58

The Donks need help even if they win.Other teams must lose to get them in.So they're not in a win and you're in situation.Thats the way I'm seeing it.Confirm or deny anyone?

That's what the local news reported after the game here in donktown.

**Bane** · 12-27-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by denverdanchiefsfan

That's what the local news reported after the game here in donktown.

I don't know,the one that is up on NFL.com shows them ahead of Baltimore so I guess with a win they are in.

Fukkn pitiful.

**dirk digler** · 12-27-2009, 08:11 PM

Here is Adam Schefter's latest twitter post:

AFC picture coming into focus: If Jets beat Bengals, they're in. If Ravens beat Raiders, they're in. Broncos, Texans, Steelers need help.

orange · 12-27-2009, 08:13 PM

Here's the actual rule:

Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the three Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss.

When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2, and repeated a third time, if necessary, to identify the third Wild Card. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/s...ge=tiebreakers

Step 1 drops Pittsburgh.
Step 3 drops Houston.
Down to Step 5. This identifies Denver as the top wildcard seed. They are pulled out and put on the board, then the remaining four teams go back to Step 1.

**Bane** · 12-27-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Here is Adam Schefter's latest twitter post:

AFC picture coming into focus: If Jets beat Bengals, they're in. If Ravens beat Raiders, they're in. Broncos, Texans, Steelers need help.

**notorious** · 12-27-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Here is Adam Schefter's latest twitter post:

AFC picture coming into focus: If Jets beat Bengals, they're in. If Ravens beat Raiders, they're in. Broncos, Texans, Steelers need help.

You put the NFL's own rules onto paper, and it works out just like Yahoo.com predicts.

With that said, the Jets and Ravens better win, because our chances against Denver are pretty bad.

orange · 12-27-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bane_58

Adam Schefter is wrong.

**Gadzooks** · 12-27-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

Adam Schefter is wrong.

Adam Schefter is never wrong. He's a machine.

**Bane** · 12-27-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

Adam Schefter is wrong.

How dare you!!!

11-23-2009, 12:34 PM
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12-27-2009, 07:59 PM	#170
notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $-964116	http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=291227021 From the article: The Broncos (8-7) are trying to avoid a major collapse after starting 6-0. They no longer control their playoff destiny and are tied with four other teams for the final two wild-card spots in the AFC. We shall see, but that makes two sources just as reliable as the unreliable NFL.
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12-27-2009, 08:01 PM	#171
Gadzooks MFIC Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Casino cash: $3729219	The Donks should fire their coach and trade Orton and Chicago's 1st round pick to Cleveland for QB Anderson.
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12-27-2009, 08:11 PM	#174
dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $124644	Here is Adam Schefter's latest twitter post: AFC picture coming into focus: If Jets beat Bengals, they're in. If Ravens beat Raiders, they're in. Broncos, Texans, Steelers need help.
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12-27-2009, 08:13 PM	#175
orange MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver, CO Casino cash: $10004900	Here's the actual rule: Three or More Clubs (Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.) 1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the three Wild-Card participants. 2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.) 3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. 4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four. 5. Strength of victory. 6. Strength of schedule. 7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed. 8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed. 9. Best net points in conference games. 10. Best net points in all games. 11. Best net touchdowns in all games. 12. Coin toss. When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2, and repeated a third time, if necessary, to identify the third Wild Card. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/s...ge=tiebreakers Step 1 drops Pittsburgh. Step 3 drops Houston. Down to Step 5. This identifies Denver as the top wildcard seed. They are pulled out and put on the board, then the remaining four teams go back to Step 1.
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