Football Leach Fired - Page 17

**Old Dog** · 12-30-2009, 12:12 PM

per ESPN

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls0...ory?id=4781981

CBSsportsline linked article as well:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/12724022
LUBBOCK, Texas -- Texas Tech has fired football coach Mike Leach.

The school handed a termination letter to Leach's attorney, Ted Liggett, on Wednesday just before the two sides were to appear in a Lubbock, Texas, courtroom for a hearing on the coach's suspension.

Liggett says the letter says Leach is "terminated with cause effective immediately."

Leach was suspended by the university on Monday while the school investigated allegations that he mistreated an injured player.

Receiver Adam James alleges Leach twice confined him to small, dark spaces during practice after the player was diagnosed with a concussion.

Texas Tech plays Michigan State on Saturday in the Alamo Bowl in San Antonio.

**jAZ** · 12-30-2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by truebigdog

I don't know that you understand how D1 scholarships work, a players cannot lose a scholarship "just because". If there are not documented circumstances of refusal to participate, illegal activity, or such as that it is fairly hard to terminate one.

Now they CAN be reduced rather easily, but that's a whole different animal.

I'm sure you are right. I'm speaking in broad strokes, no doubt. I defer to just about anyone in the know on the details.

**Old Dog** · 12-30-2009, 04:51 PM

Some have said that he couldn't sit either, but if there was an excercise bike in the room for his use, wouldln't that have allowed him to sit?

sportsman1 · 12-30-2009, 04:54 PM

If he was cut there is no doubt Craig James would have cried foul and the same result would have happened. It is really unprofessional that ESPN through all of this continues to give him a forum.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-30-2009, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon

If Leach would have kicked him off the team, the same thing would have happened. So, say Leach kicks Adam off the team and takes his scholarship away. Daddy Craig goes and complains to AD and leaks everything to his buddies at ESPN. ESPN runs with it. Tech's AD fires Leach "with cause" for mistreating an injured player.

So what you're telling us is that Leach had no choice, right?

Why did he even sign a contract extension?

Why didn't he just quit?

Wow, poor Mike Leach!

38yrsfan · 12-30-2009, 04:54 PM

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....2cf78a00.html

For the record: Craig James didn’t get Mike Leach fired. Neither did his son or ESPN or anyone else on the periphery of Texas Tech’s football program.

He won, graduated his players, didn’t attract the attention of the NCAA and still managed to generate controversy. In short, he was a lot like a basketball coach Tech once employed.
The difference between Leach’s situation and Bob Knight’s was that Gerald Myers liked Knight.

**jAZ** · 12-30-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

"Your honor these athletes are conditioned from the time they are young boys that a coach's word is law. By the time they get to college that belief is so deeply ingrained as to become a virtual physical law. They may not have been the kind of locks you can see your honor but the instant Coach Leach ordered that concussed, confused young man to stay in that shed there were locks on that door all the same.The kind of locks that can't be broken, can't be picked, the kind that can only be removed by the same coach who placed them there in the first place."

"Your honor, with all due respect to the court and my opposing collegue, I submit this long list of witnesses including current and former players and coaches who will testify to witnessing first hand how Adam James repeatedly refused to follow the word of his coaches. That's exactly what this case is about. A entitled student who felt his lineage of privlege permitted him to do everything he could to avoid following the coaching instructions that were given to players. The injury to this player was respected, and he was told the remain standing along side all of his teammates in a location that would be certain to protect him from harsh lighting."

**jAZ** · 12-30-2009, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 38yrsfan

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....2cf78a00.html

For the record: Craig James didn’t get Mike Leach fired. Neither did his son or ESPN or anyone else on the periphery of Texas Tech’s football program.

He won, graduated his players, didn’t attract the attention of the NCAA and still managed to generate controversy. In short, he was a lot like a basketball coach Tech once employed.
The difference between Leach’s situation and Bob Knight’s was that Gerald Myers liked Knight.

Yep.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-30-2009, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jAZ

"Your honor, with all due respect to the court and my opposing collegue, I submit this long list of witnesses including current and former players and coaches who will testify to witnessing first hand how Adam James repeatedly refused to follow the word of his coaches. That's exactly what this case is about. A entitled student who felt his lineage of privlege permitted him to do everything he could to avoid following the coaching instructions that were given to players. The injury to this player was respected, and he was told the remain standing along side all of his teammates in a location that would be certain to protect him from harsh lighting."

While a student stood outside the room, guarding him from exiting.

That's not ominous at all, is it?

**jAZ** · 12-30-2009, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truebigdog

Some have said that he couldn't sit either, but if there was an excercise bike in the room for his use, wouldln't that have allowed him to sit?

Leach told the trainer to clean out the room of anything that he would be able to sit or lean on to be sure that didn't happen.

**jAZ** · 12-30-2009, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

While a student stood outside the room, guarding him from exiting.

That's not ominous at all, is it?

Guarding him to make sure he didn't sit down. He was a snitch, hardly a locked door.

**jAZ** · 12-30-2009, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jAZ

Guarding him to make sure he didn't sit down. He was a snitch, hardly a locked door.

Like all of the coaches doing for all of the rest of the team that stayed on the field hitting in full pads in the full Texas sun.

vailpass · 12-30-2009, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 38yrsfan

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....2cf78a00.html

For the record: Craig James didn’t get Mike Leach fired. Neither did his son or ESPN or anyone else on the periphery of Texas Tech’s football program.

He won, graduated his players, didn’t attract the attention of the NCAA and still managed to generate controversy. In short, he was a lot like a basketball coach Tech once employed.
The difference between Leach’s situation and Bob Knight’s was that Gerald Myers liked Knight.

You mess with the bull you get the horns.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-30-2009, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jAZ

Guarding him to make sure he didn't sit down. He was a snitch, hardly a locked door.

There isn't a judge or jury in the United States of America that will condone Leach's actions in this case.

Not one.

Extra Point · 12-30-2009, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

There isn't a judge or jury in the United States of America that will condone Leach's actions in this case.

Not one.

Just because.

**mlyonsd** · 12-30-2009, 05:11 PM

This whole thing is just bizarre.

12-30-2009, 12:12 PM
Old Dog Supporter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Central Kansas Casino cash: $2390201	Leach Fired per ESPN http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls0...ory?id=4781981 CBSsportsline linked article as well: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/12724022 LUBBOCK, Texas -- Texas Tech has fired football coach Mike Leach. The school handed a termination letter to Leach's attorney, Ted Liggett, on Wednesday just before the two sides were to appear in a Lubbock, Texas, courtroom for a hearing on the coach's suspension. Liggett says the letter says Leach is "terminated with cause effective immediately." Leach was suspended by the university on Monday while the school investigated allegations that he mistreated an injured player. Receiver Adam James alleges Leach twice confined him to small, dark spaces during practice after the player was diagnosed with a concussion. Texas Tech plays Michigan State on Saturday in the Alamo Bowl in San Antonio.
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38yrsfan Veteran Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: In many minds, rent free. Casino cash: $9935667	Texas Tech went too far in its firing of Mike Leach http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....2cf78a00.html For the record: Craig James didn’t get Mike Leach fired. Neither did his son or ESPN or anyone else on the periphery of Texas Tech’s football program. He won, graduated his players, didn’t attract the attention of the NCAA and still managed to generate controversy. In short, he was a lot like a basketball coach Tech once employed. The difference between Leach’s situation and Bob Knight’s was that Gerald Myers liked Knight.
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