NFL Draft We are not taking a QB in the first round - Page 8

TheGuardian · 01-01-2010, 10:32 AM

Just the official thread stating it. I'm not sure why some of you are already blowing this horn.

Just keep reading the title of this thread until it ****ing sinks in.

And I'm not even a Cassel fan, but he's going to be given more than 1 season to show he is or is not the guy.

I know all the bullshit arguments that will come forth.

"He's not a rookie, he's a seasoned vet" blah blah ****ing blah. I don't give a shit. I'm talking about reality. They gave him 60 mil. Even if Cassel never improves on this season (which I actually think he will, even if I'm not a fan), GM's don't admit to failures that quickly. Pioli will give him every chance to prove that he's right. He drafted him, he signed him to a 60 million dollar contract. Those of you you think that Pioli is going to turn right around and draft a QB with our first pick are ****ing morons. Yes, you are. It's ENTIRELY out of the question so please stop wasting discussion time with it.

Thank you and have a nice new years day.

TheGuardian · 01-01-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

And it was after Brees third season, about the same time that most GMs would give up on a second round QB.

AJ didn't take Brees. Something I have noted over and over. So it wasn't HIS QB. Which is why he had no qualms about letting him go so easily.

Brock · 01-01-2010, 02:48 PM

I seem to remember Brees being somewhat questionable about his shoulder issues at the time.

Just Passin' By · 01-01-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

The Chiefs led the league in dropped passes last year?

Oh, that's right, they didn't.

Bowe had 13, and every other player on the team had 4 or less.

With Tyler Thigpen and Damon Huard delivering the ball.

This year, we have 3 players with 9 or more, and two of those players (Wade, Bowe) missed multiple games.

JFC.... you had receivers with drop problems before Cassel got here. Bowe having 13 is just one example. Are you going to claim that Bradley had no issues? How about Chambers? Are you going to blame Cassel because a rookie TE and Cottam struggle catching the ball, too? I mean, you do realize that Gonzalez is in Atlanta, right?

Milkman frequently has great insight, but occasionally gets caught up in the bashing on occasion and torpedoes his general knowledge by getting overly emotional.

You're just a clown.

**DeezNutz** · 01-01-2010, 02:53 PM

Chambers did have quite a few drops for KC last season.

Grid_Iron · 01-01-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ

Maybe before the start of the 2nd half against the Broncos.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-01-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

JFC.... you had receivers with drop problems before Cassel got here. Bowe having 13 is just one example. Are you going to claim that Bradley had no issues? How about Chambers? Are you going to blame Cassel because a rookie TE and Cottam struggle catching the ball, too? I mean, you do realize that Gonzalez is in Atlanta, right?

Milkman frequently has great insight, but occasionally gets caught up in the bashing on occasion and torpedoes his general knowledge by getting overly emotional.

You're just a clown.

Can you read?

We DIDN'T have drop issues before Cassel got here - with the exception of Bowe.

No one else on the roster had more than 4 last year. 4 drops over a 16 game season is NOTHING.

And nowhere did I blame Cassel for the drops. I'm simply responding to your dumbass statement that this team had drops issues prior to Cassel becoming the QB.

TheGuardian · 01-01-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I seem to remember Brees being somewhat questionable about his shoulder issues at the time.

That happened at the end of Brees GOOD season. Rivers had already been taken at that point.

Just Passin' By · 01-01-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Chambers did have quite a few drops for KC last season.

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And the receivers were dropping passes long before Cassel was the man throwing them the football

No mention of it specifically being in K.C.

Just Passin' By · 01-01-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Can you read?

We DIDN'T have drop issues before Cassel got here - with the exception of Bowe.

No one else on the roster had more than 4 last year. 4 drops over a 16 game season is NOTHING.

And nowhere did I blame Cassel for the drops. I'm simply responding to your dumbass statement that this team had drops issues prior to Cassel becoming the QB.

You really refuse to learn a damned thing, don't you? How many games did all the "other" receivers play for K.C. last season, how many catches did they have there, how many passes were thrown to them, etc...?

This shouldn't be as difficult as rocket science, even for you.

Just Passin' By · 01-01-2010, 03:05 PM

Note on Cottam, for example, from draft analysis:

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Needs to improve concentration, and tends to look up the defender before making the catch, resulting in a few drops of easy throws...With his size and arm reach, he should be catching more contested balls than he has, as he doesn't always jump and adjust to take the ball away from the defender, despite having the strength to do so.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2008/profiles/brad-cottam?id=1972#player-profile-tab-set-1

layer-profile-tab-analysis

On Chris Chambers, while still in Miami:

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I cannot account for the number of dropped passes which last year was pushing double-digits. But, otherwise, Chambers is a solid player who can really be a fine player in the right system with the right QB.

http://dolphinsindepth.blogspot.com/...-dolphins.html

This stuff isn't new.

TheGuardian · 01-01-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Can you read?

We DIDN'T have drop issues before Cassel got here - with the exception of Bowe.

No one else on the roster had more than 4 last year. 4 drops over a 16 game season is NOTHING.

And nowhere did I blame Cassel for the drops. I'm simply responding to your dumbass statement that this team had drops issues prior to Cassel becoming the QB.

.

Chambers amount of drops had already been documented by PFT before he was even released I believe. Either way, Chambers is very well known for making spectacular catches and dropping lots of easy passes.

RustShack · 01-01-2010, 03:12 PM

Chambers has been our most consistent receiver...

Sweet Dick Willy · 01-01-2010, 03:12 PM

That boy Cassel got time to plant collard greens in the backfield, and he STILL got more suck than Hoover vacuum.

Just Passin' By · 01-01-2010, 03:13 PM

Some fun fan posts about Bobby Wade, posted this summer:

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Maybe bobby should go back to dropping passes and punts

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Wow. I never, ever heard Paul Allen before, but I think someone needs to call a doctor, so his nose can be surgically removed from that over-rated, mediocre, wide receiver who drops more balls than a urologist with sweaty palms.

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I do have a followup question. Did Bobby Wade immediately drop the microphone or did he wait until the intern tossed him a bagel?

http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009...acher_mad.html

But, yeah... just point to Cassel

TheGuardian · 01-01-2010, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Some fun fan posts about Bobby Wade, posted this summer:

http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009...acher_mad.html

But, yeah... just point to Cassel

We're on a record pace for the number of dropped passes in a season......but yeah it's all because Cassel can't read a defense.

This board is so filled with stupid sometimes it hurts.

01-01-2010, 10:32 AM
TheGuardian MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $6305299	We are not taking a QB in the first round Just the official thread stating it. I'm not sure why some of you are already blowing this horn. Just keep reading the title of this thread until it **ing sinks in. And I'm not even a Cassel fan, but he's going to be given more than 1 season to show he is or is not the guy. I know all the bullshit arguments that will come forth. "He's not a rookie, he's a seasoned vet" blah blah ing blah. I don't give a shit. I'm talking about reality. They gave him 60 mil. Even if Cassel never improves on this season (which I actually think he will, even if I'm not a fan), GM's don't admit to failures that quickly. Pioli will give him every chance to prove that he's right. He drafted him, he signed him to a 60 million dollar contract. Those of you you think that Pioli is going to turn right around and draft a QB with our first pick are **ing morons. Yes, you are. It's ENTIRELY out of the question so please stop wasting discussion time with it. Thank you and have a nice new years day.
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RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $3046954	Chambers has been our most consistent receiver... __________________
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Sweet Dick Willy Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Delta Swampland Casino cash: $10004900	That boy Cassel got time to plant collard greens in the backfield, and he STILL got more suck than Hoover vacuum.
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