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Old 01-03-2010, 11:19 AM   #1
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If you mean inaccurate and overtly biased, yes everything turned out to be true.
I can see where you're coming from regarding bias, as it does appear that ESPN is circling the wagons around Craig James. I saw the report last night where they showed several Leach statements and immediately followed them with rebuttals by the trainer and the team physician.

However, I'm not aware of anything they reported that was inaccurate. According to the trainer, Leach did instruct him to LOCK Adam James in a dark room and to make him as uncomfortable as possible.

I think Leach is a helluva football coach who didn't have enough sense to know when to pick his battles.
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:21 AM   #2
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I can see where you're coming from regarding bias, as it does appear that ESPN is circling the wagons around Craig James. I saw the report last night where they showed several Leach statements and immediately followed them with rebuttals by the trainer and the team physician.

However, I'm not aware of anything they reported that was inaccurate. According to the trainer, Leach did instruct him to LOCK Adam Janes in a dark room and to make him as uncomfortable as possible.

I think Leach is a helluva football coach who didn't have enough sense to know when to pick his battles.
That and conveniently ignoring the fact that the trainers said that putting him in the shed was not detrimental to his condition. You know, the reason TTU used to fire him.
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:28 AM   #3
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That and conveniently ignoring the fact that the trainers said that putting him in the shed was not detrimental to his condition. You know, the reason TTU used to fire him.
Nobody thinks that putting Adam James in a shed was going to cause him to go into a coma and die. There's just a lot of visibility these days regarding comas, and it was stupid of Mike Leach to punish a player for having a coma.

Now maybe Leach wasn't punishing him for having a coma. Maybe he was punishing him because Craig was a prima donna and Leach had had enough of his shit. But it was pretty stupid to create the impression that he WAS punishing him for having a coma, since the team physician diagnosed it. And it was even more stupid to dig in his heals and refuse to try to defuse the situation. He had to know that the Texas Tech administration might jump at the chance to fire him, since they openly talked about firing him last year during their heated contract negotiations.

The sad thing is that everone involved is now much worse off. Leach has lost millions of dollars, the Texas Tech football team probably won't win nearly as many games the next few years, and Craig James and his son look like a couple of assholes.

Mike Leach will eventually get another head coaching job, but he won't get back all of the money he lost.

There is sometimes a price to pay for arrogance, even if you're really good at what you do.
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:30 AM   #4
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Nobody thinks that putting Adam James in a shed was going to cause him to go into a coma and die. There's just a lot of visibility these days regarding comas, and it was stupid of Mike Leach to punish a player for having a coma.

Now maybe Leach wasn't punishing him for having a coma. Maybe he was punishing him because Craig was a prima donna and Leach had had enough of his shit. But it was pretty stupid to create the impression that he WAS punishing him for having a coma, since the team physician diagnosed it. And it was even more stupid to dig in his heals and refuse to try to defuse the situation. He had to know that the Texas Tech administration might jump at the chance to fire him, since they openly talked about firing him last year during their heated contract negotiations.

The sad thing is that everone involved is now much worse off. Leach has lost millions of dollars, the Texas Tech football team probably won't win nearly as many games the next few years, and Craig James and his son look like a couple of assholes.

Mike Leach will eventually get another head coaching job, but he won't get back all of the money he lost.

There is sometimes a price to pay for arrogance, even if you're really good at what you do.

What?
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:33 AM   #5
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What?
Which statement do you disagree with?
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:33 AM   #6
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Which statement do you disagree with?
That part about Mike Leach in a thread about Romeo Crennel.
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:38 AM   #7
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:43 AM   #8
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That part about Mike Leach in a thread about Romeo Crennel.
OK, valid point.
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:46 AM   #9
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Which statement do you disagree with?
Or possibly that it was a concussion, not a coma there doctor.

I reiterate what I said once before:
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:49 AM   #10
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Or possibly that it was a concussion, not a coma there doctor.

I reiterate what I said once before:
Dang. I was loading up a smart ass response and then I saw that I did use coma a couple of times when I meant concussion. Maybe I should get a proofreader.
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:39 AM   #11
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Nobody thinks that putting Adam James in a shed was going to cause him to go into a coma and die. There's just a lot of visibility these days regarding comas, and it was stupid of Mike Leach to punish a player for having a coma.

Now maybe Leach wasn't punishing him for having a coma. Maybe he was punishing him because Craig was a prima donna and Leach had had enough of his shit. But it was pretty stupid to create the impression that he WAS punishing him for having a coma, since the team physician diagnosed it. And it was even more stupid to dig in his heals and refuse to try to defuse the situation. He had to know that the Texas Tech administration might jump at the chance to fire him, since they openly talked about firing him last year during their heated contract negotiations.

The sad thing is that everone involved is now much worse off. Leach has lost millions of dollars, the Texas Tech football team probably won't win nearly as many games the next few years, and Craig James and his son look like a couple of assholes.

Mike Leach will eventually get another head coaching job, but he won't get back all of the money he lost.

There is sometimes a price to pay for arrogance, even if you're really good at what you do.
Reading the trainer's affidavit, it appears that he was punished for showing up to practice in street clothes and wandering around instead of showing up to practice dressed and staying in the injured players area like other injured players.
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:47 AM   #12
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Reading the trainer's affidavit, it appears that he was punished for showing up to practice in street clothes and wandering around instead of showing up to practice dressed and staying in the injured players area like other injured players.
I think you're right.

Mike Leach would have been better off if he had said that up front, instead of trying to make it sound like he was 100% concerned for Adam James's welfare and he put him in a place where the sunlight wouldn't bother him strictly out of concern for the player. That sounded like 100% bullshit when he said it.
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That and conveniently ignoring the fact that the trainers said that putting him in the shed was not detrimental to his condition. You know, the reason TTU used to fire him.
But the shed was only the size of a single car garage. How could anyone survive like 45 minutes in a 10x12 space. I'm surprised it didn't kill him.
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