Chiefs Whitlock: Chiefs can put their faith in Charles

SenselessChiefsFan · 01-04-2010, 07:27 AM

Placing glass ceilings on talented players because you jump to a quick conclusion is how you wind with your team MVP in street clothes in week two.

This.

And, this is how you end up with your best strong safety playing in Houston.

**Buehler445** · 01-04-2010, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Placing glass ceilings on talented players because you jump to a quick conclusion is how you wind with your team MVP in street clothes in week two.

This.

And, this is how you end up with your best Safety on the roster playing in Houston.

FYP

I was really excited about Pollard. They were supposed to put him close to the line so he could do what he does well. You know, like Houston is doing.

Christofire · 01-04-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Placing glass ceilings on talented players because you jump to a quick conclusion is how you wind with your team MVP in street clothes in week two.

Not always a fan of Whitlock but it's a pretty good article. The quote above is a good message, but let's not forget that Charles earned some of that time off the field/on the bench himself by being a fumbler early on in the season. For this coaching staff, it wasn't a matter of talent -- it was a matter of trust.

That said, glad to see that he's manned up, and we're giving him the ball and getting the hell out of the way.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-04-2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Christofire

Not always a fan of Whitlock but it's a pretty good article. The quote above is a good message, but let's not forget that Charles earned some of that time off the field/on the bench himself by being a fumbler early on in the season. For this coaching staff, it wasn't a matter of talent -- it was a matter of trust.

That said, glad to see that he's manned up, and we're giving him the ball and getting the hell out of the way.

Damn, people.

He fumbled ONCE in the first 11 weeks of the season.

ONCE.

I have no idea where this myth started, or why people choose to continue believing it when facts are presented that prove it's false.

http://www.nfl.com/players/jamaalcha...s?id=CHA561428

FAX · 01-04-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Damn, people.

He fumbled ONCE in the first 11 weeks of the season.

ONCE.

I have no idea where this myth started, or why people choose to continue believing it when facts are presented that prove it's false.

http://www.nfl.com/players/jamaalcha...s?id=CHA561428

I posted in the other thread (you know, the one where we were discussing this, Mr. OnTheWarpath58) one possible "source" of the "myth".

Apparently, Charles had what was considered to be a significant fumbling problem in college. That would explain why he was branded with this reputation.

FAX

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-04-2010, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

I posted in the other thread (you know, the one where we were discussing this, Mr. OnTheWarpath58) one possible "source" of the "myth".

Apparently, Charles had what was considered to be a significant fumbling problem in college. That would explain why he was branded with this reputation.

FAX

Well, Mr. FAX, college ball and the NFL are a different animal.

What's he's done in college has no bearing on what he's done in the league.

And again, this is directed more at the folks that keep claiming this supposed "early season fumbling problem" is the reason why he was inactive for a game, and buried on the depth chart.

FAX · 01-04-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Well, Mr. FAX, college ball and the NFL are a different animal.

What's he's done in college has no bearing on what he's done in the league.

And again, this is directed more at the folks that keep claiming this supposed "early season fumbling problem" is the reason why he was inactive for a game, and buried on the depth chart.

Please. Repeat after me ... "I am not a knucklehead. I am not a knucklehead."

I'm trying to help you here. If you read the post I referred to, you'll see where the "myth" began. In no way is it a comparison of college ball and the NFL (I actually feel stupid having to type that out).

You keep saying that Charles' reputation as a fumbler is unfounded.

Here's what happened ... NFL scouts pay attention to all kinds of things when evaluating a college player ... including his propensity (or lack, thereof) to fumble. Charles got his reputation as a fumbler because he fumbled in college ... he even publicly admitted that he had a problem that needed work.

Jeez.

FAX

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-04-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

You keep saying that Charles' reputation as a fumbler is unfounded.

No, FAX, I'm not.

I'm simply saying that he DID NOT have a early season fumbling problem, as so many people here have claimed.

He fumbled ONCE in the first 11 weeks of the season.

ONCE.

Christofire · 01-04-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Damn, people.

He fumbled ONCE in the first 11 weeks of the season.

ONCE.

I have no idea where this myth started, or why people choose to continue believing it when facts are presented that prove it's false.

http://www.nfl.com/players/jamaalcha...s?id=CHA561428

I'm encompassing training camp/pre-season, too.

TigerPig · 01-04-2010, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Christofire

I'm encompassing training camp/pre-season, too.

"We're talking about...practice... Not a game... Practice..."

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**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-04-2010, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Christofire

I'm encompassing training camp/pre-season, too.

Great. Games that don't count being used to perpetuate a myth. Cool.

Oh, wait. He only fumbled ONCE in the preseason?

So, two fumbles in the first 15 weeks of the season?

Christofire · 01-04-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Great. Games that don't count being used to perpetuate a myth. Cool.

Oh, wait. He only fumbled ONCE in the preseason?

So, two fumbles in the first 15 weeks of the season?

Calm down a little bit. You're not listening.

My point was this: Training camp and pre-season is what builds trust early in the season. Charles fumbled once (out of only four carries) against Minny in the pre-season. He only had 15 carries the entire preseason. It's logical to say that it hurt his chances of playing.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-04-2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Christofire

Calm down a little bit. You're not listening.

My point was this: Training camp and pre-season is what builds trust early in the season. Charles fumbled once (out of only four carries) against Minny in the pre-season. He only had 15 carries the entire preseason. It's logical to say that it hurt his chances of playing.

Whatever you say.

Keep moving those goalposts.

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