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General Concept: Take over a roster of NFL players and build/trade it through the draft, trades, and free agency.

Number of Players: Up to 32, maybe up to 40.

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Go here: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...22#post5909122 I think pestilence has the latest in the thread header, but just in case, I pasted the latest in Post #12.

Draft Order - Veteran Draft

1 Chiefs=Good: Fort Wayne Dancers
2 bdeg: Philadelphia Battery Tossers
3 Mr. Arrowhead: Wichita Ballbashers (formerly Honolulu Hulas)
4 Chiefscafan: Los Angeles Purple Cobras
5 Kyle Delexus/MWagg72: Kansas City Kings
6 truebigdog: San Antonio Scorpions
7 rockio42: St. Louis Stallions
8 Ultra Peanut: Burlington Blue Barracudas
9 Fat Elvis: Cleveland Steamers
10 Pestilenceaf23: Tucson Twisters
11 cdcox: Greenville Marauders
12 Mile High Mania: Crested Butte-Holes (formerly Memphis Malt Liquor)
13 doomy3: Chattanooga Choo Choos
14 darosa88: Boise Beetdiggers
15 jwazzie: Wichita Wee Willies (formerly St. Louis Commodes)
16 Rain Man: Bradenton Super-Manatees
17 Burger: Knoxville Kiffins
18 KC King: Milwaukee Mud Ducks
19 Bowser: Atlantic City Hitmen



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East
2 bdeg: PBT
8 Ultra Peanut: BBB
9 Fat Elvis: CS
18 KC King: MMD
20 Bowser: ACH

Midwest
1 Chiefs=Good: FWD
5 Kyle Delexus: KCK
7 rockio42: SLS
15 jwazzie: WWW

South
11 cdcox: GM
12 Mile High Mania: CBH
13 doomy3: CCC
16 Rain Man: BSM
17 Burger: KK

West
3 Mr. Arrowhead: WB
4 Chiefscafan: LAPC
6 truebigdog: SAS
10 Pestilenceaf23: TTT
14 Darosa88: BBD

Edit: The clock is now 8 hours if you are not currently behind on your picks. If you are behind 1 pick, your clock will be 2 hours. If you are behind 2 or more picks, you will be skipped immedately, but will be notified. Owners are encouraged to leave a short list of preferred players with a trusted adult if they believe that they will not be immediately present for their pick.


The Remainder Round Draft Order is below, but I'm hiding it for the moment so people don't get confused with the regular draft order.

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First 30 rounds are here:

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Old 01-04-2010, 12:18 AM   #4321
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The winner is the team that was visionary enough to draft Darrelle Revis. But it'll have to go to a vote first. When the Monday game is done and I have a little time, I'll start the process. This'll be fun.
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Old 01-04-2010, 10:05 PM   #4322
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Old 01-04-2010, 10:58 PM   #4323
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Old 01-05-2010, 05:50 AM   #4324
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Old 01-05-2010, 08:18 AM   #4325
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Old 01-05-2010, 09:08 AM   #4326
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Well, when I took over the team... some yahoo had drafted Cassel incredibly too early, so my decision to trade him and roll with Schaub paid off.

Schaub led the NFL in yards 4,770 and he had 29 TDs and 15 INTs... solid, very freaking solid.

Boldin was the 11th ranked WR in yards, but down on TDs with only 4.
TJ Housh was the 16th ranked WR in yards, barely missed 1k yards and only 3 TDs. My depth at WR was fairly under-whelming.
Olsen was pretty solid at TE, with 60 rec's and 8 TDs.
Shockey had some injury issues, but was decent with 48 rec's for 3 TDs.

Brandon Jacobs and Kevin Smith did "ok" at RB, both had their issues and the injury put Smith down way too early. And, both were on teams that had issues all over the place, so going forward, I still like their upside. Hillis... I'm in awe that McD couldn't find a way to make him more useful. It's a waste of talent in my opinion. But, Buckhalter and Mike Bell both added 600+ rushing yards and another 6 rushing TDs, so as a group... the ground attack had great production for the Butte-Holes...

As an offense, the Crested Butte-Holes had well over 7,000 yards of combined offense with a total of 46 TDs. That's greatness!

Mason Crosby had a great season, so no problems with the kicking game. Maynard was 'ok' as a punter.

I'm not sure how to get the best stats for OL, but it looks like they were pretty good from a high level view.

Defensively... only 6 INTs from my DBs, Wilson was a bust, but I had 4 guys with over 65 tackles and I think Marshall, Tillman and Harper were good with Elam stepping in well.

The DL was pretty solid with over 30 sacks from Peppers, Ray Edwards, Kevin Williams, Kelly and Tapp. And, at LB - Morrison and Lofton were each over 100 tackles but the others were not as prolific.

All in all... I think the production was solid and the chemistry of the team remained pretty sound throughout the year. The passing game was the strength, while the platoon at RB proved to be a nice balance. Defensively, I think they could have played better, but overall it was a good season.

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QB (3)
Matt Schaub, QB
Trent Edwards, QB

Brunell,Mark QB ACT NO CBH
WR/TE (8)
Anquan Boldin, WR
TJ Houshmandzadeh, WR
Roy Williams, WR

Jordy Nelson, WR
Greg Olsen, TE

Jeremy Shockey, TE
Dinkins,Darnell TE ACT NO CBH
Woods,D'Juan WR RES NO CBH

RB (6)
Brandon Jacobs, RB
Kevin Smith, RB
Peyton Hillis, FB

Correll Buckhalter, RB
Bell,Mike RB ACT NO CBH

*Jerious Norwood, RB/KR (listed primarily as KR - shown in both places)
OL (11)

Marcus McNeil, LT
Robert Gallery, LG

Frank Omiyale, LT/LG
Olin Kreutz, C

Chris Myers, C
Chris Kuper, RG

Anthony Collins, RT

Leckey,Nick C ACT NO CBH
Collins,Anthony T ACT CIN CBH

Omiyale,Frank T ACT CHI CBH
Bushrod,Jermon T ACT NO CBH

ST (3)

Mason Crosby, K
Brad Maynard, P

*Jerious Norwood, KR/RB

DL (8)

Julius Peppers, DE/OLB
Ray Edwards, LDE

Kevin Williams, DT
Tommy Kelly, DT

Domata Peko, DT
Darryl Tapp, RDE

Clancy,Kendrick NT ACT NO CBH
Charleston, Jeff DE ACT NO CBH

LB (8)

Kirk Morrison, ILB
Zach Diles, OLB/SLB

Curtis Lofton, MLB

Gerald Hayes, MLB/ILB
Akeem Jordan, OLB
Simoneau,Mark MLB RES NO CBH
Dunbar,Jo-Lonn LB ACT NO CBH

Evans,Troy LB ACT NO CBH

DB (6)

Richard Marshall, CB
Charles Tillman, CB
Gibril Wilson, S
Roman Harper, S

Abram Elam, S

Torrence,Leigh DB ACT NO CBH

Practice Squad
Nesbit,Jamar G ACT NO CBH
Harper,Rod WR ACT NO CBH
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Old 01-05-2010, 10:19 AM   #4327
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Old 01-05-2010, 10:38 AM   #4328
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It's going to be cool to see how this all pans out.

I was sure that my running game was going to be strong with Portis, Addai, and Leon Washington. I may have relied too much on Portis.

My defense was good, though.
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Old 01-05-2010, 10:45 AM   #4329
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Did you sum your WR production with your QB production, essentially double counting them?

Also, did you fully count the production of each RB and receiver? Since many of your skill players probably played a bigger role on their RL team than they would on your AR team (given that there are only so many balls to go around) that is also probably double counting production.
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Old 01-05-2010, 10:48 AM   #4330
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Did you sum your WR production with your QB production, essentially double counting them?

Also, did you fully count the production of each RB and receiver? Since many of your skill players probably played a bigger role on their RL team than they would on your AR team (given that there are only so many balls to go around) that is also probably double counting production.
Double counting is greatness... I was really unsure how to judge this one, so yes... I added up their individual stats.
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Double counting is greatness... I was really unsure how to judge this one, so yes... I added up their individual stats.
Yeah, I've been struggling with how to do this (including adjustments for OL and defense) since back when we were drafting this summer. If we think about which team is best the way you've done it, the game will degenerate into standard fantasy football. Not a criticism (cause I don't have a better idea yet) just an observation.
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:36 AM   #4332
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Yeah, the challenge will be using stats as enlightenment but not necessarily judging on stats alone. Part of it too will be noting how many starts each guy got, since real-life stats won't matter as much if a guy's 4th-string on our teams (though it would be proof of strong depth).

I think a big part of it is going to shake out naturally as voters look at our lineups.
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:40 AM   #4333
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Yeah, I've been struggling with how to do this (including adjustments for OL and defense) since back when we were drafting this summer. If we think about which team is best the way you've done it, the game will degenerate into standard fantasy football. Not a criticism (cause I don't have a better idea yet) just an observation.
Yep, I never really understood how people were going to 'grade' the teams.

There's no scheduling obviously, which means no head to head results. So, do you put together a panel that can truly grade the manner in which teams were constructed... being able to truly determine if the 4 people in a team's secondary really is possible or makes sense?

You know... it's very difficult.

If you go off of production, then yeah... you're going to look like fantasy football. That's another difficulty though and a reason I just combined the numbers. It's difficult to grade these guys "as a team"... my QB threw for a ton of yards and TDs, but my WRs/TEs/RBs didn't catch that many yards or score that many TDs, so there is an issue with balance.

I'm not sure what RainMan had in mind...

I was looking at a few teams and their starters (granted from an accumulated points/fantasy football perspective) and a number of times I said "who?"

I admitted early on that I tried to be reasonable in my approach, but I definitely took a fantasy football approach to building the team, especially since there were no contractual or cap limitations to building these teams.
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Yeah, the challenge will be using stats as enlightenment but not necessarily judging on stats alone. Part of it too will be noting how many starts each guy got, since real-life stats won't matter as much if a guy's 4th-string on our teams (though it would be proof of strong depth).

I think a big part of it is going to shake out naturally as voters look at our lineups.
If it's an "open vote" to the masses, my guess is that you will have a lot of people view the teams from a fantasy football perspective.
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I'm pondering put each unit out for grading by the masses. Who has the best backfield, receivers, line, etc., and then putting the whole team out, just for fun.

I really think the simplest way is to put the lineups together, state who started how many games, and have people vote.

Maybe give people 100 words to describe their team or philosophy or something, too, just so people can highlight strengths for the audience.
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