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Old 01-05-2010, 08:29 PM  
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CHICAGO -- It appears the Chicago Bears won't have a shortage of candidates to replace Ron Turner, who was fired as offensive coordinator on Tuesday.

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The latest news from Bears beat reporter Jeff Dickerson. Blog

Former Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis is interested in the possibility of coming to Chicago, and he is currently holding off pursuing a similar role with the Kansas City Chiefs because of Tuesday's developments at Halas Hall, according to a source close to the Bears.

Weis was the offensive coordinator for the New England Patriots from 2000-04, playing a role in three Super Bowl championships. He also was the offensive coordinator for the New York Jets from 1997-99.

Weis was fired as Notre Dame's head coach on Nov. 30 after a five-year record of 35-27.

Former St. Louis Rams head coach Mike Martz also said he "absolutely" would be interested in replacing Turner.

Bears quarterback Jay Cutler is believed to be lobbying hard for ex-Denver Broncos quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates, who spent last season calling plays for USC.
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Old 01-05-2010, 10:40 PM   #151
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OTWP - How is 26 INT's acceptable though? I was pissed Cassel had 16... plus i thought a good QB will normally have a 2-1 ratio td/int
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Old 01-05-2010, 10:40 PM   #152
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cutler does remind me a bit of Grbac
Except Grbac had a chin.
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Old 01-05-2010, 10:41 PM   #153
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Seriously, Vince Young and Jay Cutler went in the same draft. Young won a bunch of games in college and has in the pros, are you going to honestly say you'd rather have him cause he's a "winner"?
If he is the Vince Young that showed up the last 8 games of the season, in a heartbeat I would.
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Old 01-05-2010, 10:43 PM   #154
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Except Grbac had a chin.
All we need from Cutler is an "I can't throw it and catch it" incident with the media and then a development of the classic Grbac "oh shit, I just threw a pick, time to play hurt" technique, and the two would be indistinguishable. They're already equally popular with their teammates.
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Old 01-05-2010, 10:45 PM   #155
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by the way cutler, OTWP, has a career 77/66 td/int ratio with a yards/pass attempt ratio of 7.18... for a first round pick in his 4 year, wouldnt you think he would be better? Would you not be pissed if Cassel had the same numbers? I know i wouldnt be happy if Cassel, in 3 years has those numbers... (and a 24-29 record as a starter to boot)
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Old 01-05-2010, 10:54 PM   #156
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seriously, i need OTWP or Mecca to answer my question above, you guys are great posters, i just need clarification on how Cutler is considered good with those numbers...
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Old 01-05-2010, 10:57 PM   #157
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by the way cutler, OTWP, has a career 77/66 td/int ratio with a yards/pass attempt ratio of 7.18... for a first round pick in his 4 year, wouldnt you think he would be better? Would you not be pissed if Cassel had the same numbers? I know i wouldnt be happy if Cassel, in 3 years has those numbers... (and a 24-29 record as a starter to boot)
You have incorrect info on Cutler. His career TD/INT is 81/63. That's a 1.28 TD/INT ratio.

http://www.nfl.com/players/jaycutler...e?id=CUT288111

Any guess as to what Peyton Manning's ratio was his first 4 years?

1.37

And he was a #1 overall pick, surrounded by superior talent.


Cutler's biggest problem is forcing the ball because he feels it's all on his shoulders. In Denver, he had to score 35 to have a chance to win a game.

In Chicago, he's trying to overcome a lack of talent around him.

If he ever figures out how to overcome that feeling of having to do everything, the sky is the limit. Because right now, the only thing holding him back is his turnovers, and like I said, he has a positive TD/INT ratio, and has never thrown more INT's than TD's in a season.
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:00 PM   #158
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You have incorrect info on Cutler. His career TD/INT is 81/63. That's a 1.28 TD/INT ratio.

http://www.nfl.com/players/jaycutler...e?id=CUT288111

Any guess as to what Peyton Manning's ratio was his first 4 years?

1.37

And he was a #1 overall pick, surrounded by superior talent.
I stand corrected, my info was off, must have not included the last 4 td's in the last game, and i added 3 int... blindly... thats what i get for not double checking...

regardless though, this year his td/int ratio was bad... right? and his 6.6 avg per pass attempt was not good right?

Cassel in year 2 as a starter has a 1.37 ratio... and a 6.6 avg... how is he not given a pass too?
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:07 PM   #160
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If he ever figures out how to overcome that feeling of having to do everything, the sky is the limit. Because right now, the only thing holding him back is his turnovers, and like I said, he has a positive TD/INT ratio, and has never thrown more INT's than TD's in a season.
Wow, are you talking about Cutler or Cassel cause this is true for both at this point...
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and by the Way OTWP, thanks for correcting me, and answering my questions, you are one of the few posters i really enjoy reading...
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I stand corrected, my info was off, must have not included the last 4 td's in the last game, and i added 3 int... blindly... thats what i get for not double checking...

regardless though, this year his td/int ratio was bad... right? and his 6.6 avg per pass attempt was not good right?

Cassel in year 2 as a starter has a 1.37 ratio... and a 6.6 avg... how is he not given a pass too?
Cassel's numbers are based on one good year in NE, where over 70% of his pass attempts traveled under 10 yards.

Cutler's numbers are based over 4 years, and this year was his worst, was still better than Cassel in every category but INT's, and Cutler had much, much less to work with.

If Matt Cassel did what Cutler did in 2007 or 2008, people wouldn't be complaining.

Problem is, Cassel will likely never do those things, because he doesn't have talent, nor does he have the downfield accuracy necessary.
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and by the Way OTWP, thanks for correcting me, and answering my questions, you are one of the few posters i really enjoy reading...
No problem. Thanks for the kind words.
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No problem. Thanks for the kind words.
You must have missed post #160, because you skipped over it.
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Wow, are you talking about Cutler or Cassel cause this is true for both at this point...
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You must have missed post #160, because you skipped over it.
Holy shit. Yeah, I missed it.

Carlos, if you think the only thing holding Cassel back is turnovers, I have some oceanfront property in Eastern Missouri I'd love to sell you.
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