Football Source: Weis intrigued by Bears job - Page 12

Mr_Tomahawk · 01-05-2010, 08:29 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nf...ory?id=4799863

CHICAGO -- It appears the Chicago Bears won't have a shortage of candidates to replace Ron Turner, who was fired as offensive coordinator on Tuesday.

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Former Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis is interested in the possibility of coming to Chicago, and he is currently holding off pursuing a similar role with the Kansas City Chiefs because of Tuesday's developments at Halas Hall, according to a source close to the Bears.

Weis was the offensive coordinator for the New England Patriots from 2000-04, playing a role in three Super Bowl championships. He also was the offensive coordinator for the New York Jets from 1997-99.

Weis was fired as Notre Dame's head coach on Nov. 30 after a five-year record of 35-27.

Former St. Louis Rams head coach Mike Martz also said he "absolutely" would be interested in replacing Turner.

Bears quarterback Jay Cutler is believed to be lobbying hard for ex-Denver Broncos quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates, who spent last season calling plays for USC.

carlos3652 · 01-05-2010, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Cassel's numbers are based on one good year in NE, where over 70% of his pass attempts traveled under 10 yards.

Cutler's numbers are based over 4 years, and this year was his worst, was still better than Cassel in every category but INT's, and Cutler had much, much less to work with.

If Matt Cassel did what Cutler did in 2007 or 2008, people wouldn't be complaining.

Problem is, Cassel will likely never do those things, because he doesn't have talent, nor does he have the downfield accuracy necessary.

Fair enough, but if Cassel had that Denver Offense i think he would have done just as good as Cutler... heck, i think Cassel would have had better numbers than Orton and his td/int ratio would even be better... do you disagree with this...

and if i read this right, you are telling me that Chicago offensive cast is worse team then the Chiefs...????? this after week in and week out everyone saying the chiefs are the worst team in the NFL..?

carlos3652 · 01-05-2010, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Holy shit. Yeah, I missed it.

Carlos, if you think the only thing holding Cassel back is turnovers, I have some oceanfront property in Eastern Missouri I'd love to sell you.

Haha... ill probably buy it, since im from another country...

but i guess i was talking about his td/int ratio being positive in his career, and never having more ints than tds...

**DeezNutz** · 01-05-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Holy shit. Yeah, I missed it.

Carlos, if you think the only thing holding Cassel back is turnovers, I have some oceanfront property in Eastern Missouri I'd love to sell you.

I was thinking you viewed it as a choose-your-own-adventure moment:

Should I hit the softball, perhaps engendering ill will? Or, should I graciously accept the compliment?

I am interested in the real estate, however.

carlos3652 · 01-05-2010, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I was thinking you viewed it as a choose-your-own-adventure moment:

Should I hit the softball, perhaps engendering ill will? Or, should I graciously accept the compliment?

I am interested in the real estate, however.

Man I used to love those books, if you choose post 160 - kill the spaniard, if you choose post 162 happy ending... not in that way though, maybe GC can help with that....

**DeezNutz** · 01-05-2010, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by carlos3652

Man I used to love those books, if you choose post 160 - kill the spaniard, if you choose post 162 happy ending... not in that way though, maybe GC can help with that....

Me, too. And _Big_ was on TV the other day. "You think someone is going to pay $19.95 for a comic book?!!!"

And GC is never safe.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-05-2010, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by carlos3652

Fair enough, but if Cassel had that Denver Offense i think he would have done just as good as Cutler... heck, i think Cassel would have had better numbers than Orton and his td/int ratio would even be better... do you disagree with this...

No, I don't think Cassel could have taken Denver to a better record, nor compiled better statistics. And I definitely don't see him throwing fewer INT's than Orton, considering he threw just as many in NE surrounded by the dynasty of the decade.

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Originally Posted by carlos3652

and if i read this right, you are telling me that Chicago offensive cast is worse team then the Chiefs...????? this after week in and week out everyone saying the chiefs are the worst team in the NFL..?

Oh yeah, Chicago's offensive talent is worse than ours, at least for this season.

The OL's are probably a wash.

The RB's are hard to judge, because both are young, and they are different kind of runners.

But Chicago's WR were trash.

For a single season, I'd take Bowe/Chambers/Wade over Hester/Knox/Aromushdu every time, no questions asked.

If I were thinking about the future, however, I'd prefer to have Bowe, Knox and Aromushdu, and take my lumps while they learn.

That's the thing: Cutler leaves Denver, where he had Marshall, Royal and Scheffler to throw to - and goes to Chicago, throws to that crew, and the only statistic that suffered was his INT total.

Part of that was trying to do to much, part of it was young, inexperienced WR's running bad routes, the wrong routes, and learning on the fly.

jspchief · 01-05-2010, 11:27 PM

Weis and Cutler? no. Martz and Cutler? Nope.

Egomaniac OC + lackadaisical QB = Oil + water

Until Cutler plays well under pressure, he doesn't live up to the hype IMO. It's not about his stats. It's about the gamebreaking poor decisions the guy makes when the pressure is on, either literal pressure from a pass rush or the figurative pressure of a big game situation. Blame it on his WRs, but guys like Favre and Manning make their receivers, not the other way around.

RustShack · 01-06-2010, 12:05 AM

Martz and Cutler with Weis and Cassel is the best case scenerio for both teams.

Sure-Oz · 01-06-2010, 12:13 AM

Chiefs Offense-TM-Chiefs Jan. 5 - 10:53 pm et

A league source tells SI.com that ex-Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis "actually might" end up as the Chiefs' offensive coordinator.
"I would expect a decision in the next couple days," the source said. Weis has reportedly been in constant communication with Kansas City since he was fired on November 30. He's worked with both GM Scott Pioli and coach Todd Haley previously, and has a history of getting the best out of quarterbacks.
Source: SI.com

Mr_Tomahawk · 01-06-2010, 11:51 AM

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com...ith-bears.html

Charlie Weis unlikely to land with Bears
January 6, 2010 11:40 AM | No Comments
By Dan Pompei
One candidate for the Bears' offensive coordinator job who likely can be crossed off the list is Charlie Weis.

The former Notre Dame coach is far along in his discussions to join the Chiefs, and probably will become the offensive coordinator for Todd Haley soon.

It is possible that Weis could resurface as a candidate for the Bears job if talks broke off with the Chiefs, but a source close to the situation said no one expects that to happen.

The leading candidate for the Bears' position at this point could be USC assistant head coach/quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates. While in Denver, Bates was Jay Cutler's quarterbacks coach.

Mr. Laz · 01-06-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com...ith-bears.html

Charlie Weis unlikely to land with Bears
January 6, 2010 11:40 AM | No Comments
By Dan Pompei
One candidate for the Bears' offensive coordinator job who likely can be crossed off the list is Charlie Weis.

The former Notre Dame coach is far along in his discussions to join the Chiefs, and probably will become the offensive coordinator for Todd Haley soon.

It is possible that Weis could resurface as a candidate for the Bears job if talks broke off with the Chiefs, but a source close to the situation said no one expects that to happen.

The leading candidate for the Bears' position at this point could be USC assistant head coach/quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates. While in Denver, Bates was Jay Cutler's quarterbacks coach.

Let's hope Weis is a better OC than he was a college HC.

i still want a Quarterback's coach.

eazyb81 · 01-06-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com...ith-bears.html

Charlie Weis unlikely to land with Bears
January 6, 2010 11:40 AM | No Comments
By Dan Pompei
One candidate for the Bears' offensive coordinator job who likely can be crossed off the list is Charlie Weis.

The former Notre Dame coach is far along in his discussions to join the Chiefs, and probably will become the offensive coordinator for Todd Haley soon.

It is possible that Weis could resurface as a candidate for the Bears job if talks broke off with the Chiefs, but a source close to the situation said no one expects that to happen.

The leading candidate for the Bears' position at this point could be USC assistant head coach/quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates. While in Denver, Bates was Jay Cutler's quarterbacks coach.

Hell Yes!

Great news.

Micjones · 01-06-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com...ith-bears.html

Charlie Weis unlikely to land with Bears
January 6, 2010 11:40 AM | No Comments
By Dan Pompei
One candidate for the Bears' offensive coordinator job who likely can be crossed off the list is Charlie Weis.

The former Notre Dame coach is far along in his discussions to join the Chiefs, and probably will become the offensive coordinator for Todd Haley soon.

It is possible that Weis could resurface as a candidate for the Bears job if talks broke off with the Chiefs, but a source close to the situation said no one expects that to happen.

The leading candidate for the Bears' position at this point could be USC assistant head coach/quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates. While in Denver, Bates was Jay Cutler's quarterbacks coach.

Amazing news!
If we lose out on Crennel there will be other DC candidates we can snare.
I'm not sure there was another OC candidate comparable to Weis.

Frazod · 01-06-2010, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com...ith-bears.html

Charlie Weis unlikely to land with Bears
January 6, 2010 11:40 AM | No Comments
By Dan Pompei
One candidate for the Bears' offensive coordinator job who likely can be crossed off the list is Charlie Weis.

The former Notre Dame coach is far along in his discussions to join the Chiefs, and probably will become the offensive coordinator for Todd Haley soon.

It is possible that Weis could resurface as a candidate for the Bears job if talks broke off with the Chiefs, but a source close to the situation said no one expects that to happen.

The leading candidate for the Bears' position at this point could be USC assistant head coach/quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates. While in Denver, Bates was Jay Cutler's quarterbacks coach.

I don't think he would end up in Chicago regardless of whether he signs with us. There is too much overlap in fan bases between the Bears and Notre Dame, and Weis isn't exactly Mr. Popularity among the domers right now.

Titty Meat · 01-06-2010, 01:20 PM

They were discussing this today on Mike & Mike. They made a good point about how Weis wants to be "the head coach of the offense" but Todd Haley probably just wants someone who's more of a consultant.

01-05-2010, 08:29 PM
Mr_Tomahawk Prestige Worldwide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spring Hill, KS Casino cash: $-69474	Source: Weis intrigued by Bears job http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nf...ory?id=4799863 CHICAGO -- It appears the Chicago Bears won't have a shortage of candidates to replace Ron Turner, who was fired as offensive coordinator on Tuesday. ESPNChicago.com Bears blog The latest news from Bears beat reporter Jeff Dickerson. Blog Former Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis is interested in the possibility of coming to Chicago, and he is currently holding off pursuing a similar role with the Kansas City Chiefs because of Tuesday's developments at Halas Hall, according to a source close to the Bears. Weis was the offensive coordinator for the New England Patriots from 2000-04, playing a role in three Super Bowl championships. He also was the offensive coordinator for the New York Jets from 1997-99. Weis was fired as Notre Dame's head coach on Nov. 30 after a five-year record of 35-27. Former St. Louis Rams head coach Mike Martz also said he "absolutely" would be interested in replacing Turner. Bears quarterback Jay Cutler is believed to be lobbying hard for ex-Denver Broncos quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates, who spent last season calling plays for USC.
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Mr_Tomahawk Prestige Worldwide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spring Hill, KS Casino cash: $-69474	http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com...ith-bears.html Charlie Weis unlikely to land with Bears January 6, 2010 11:40 AM \| No Comments By Dan Pompei One candidate for the Bears' offensive coordinator job who likely can be crossed off the list is Charlie Weis. The former Notre Dame coach is far along in his discussions to join the Chiefs, and probably will become the offensive coordinator for Todd Haley soon. It is possible that Weis could resurface as a candidate for the Bears job if talks broke off with the Chiefs, but a source close to the situation said no one expects that to happen. The leading candidate for the Bears' position at this point could be USC assistant head coach/quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates. While in Denver, Bates was Jay Cutler's quarterbacks coach. __________________ Adopt-A-Chief: John Dorsey
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Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1072442	They were discussing this today on Mike & Mike. They made a good point about how Weis wants to be "the head coach of the offense" but Todd Haley probably just wants someone who's more of a consultant.
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