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Old 01-16-2010, 09:58 AM   #1
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That may require a rotating antenna then. I was going to say an omni-directional antenna, but they aren't meant for fringe signals.

Go here and put in your address and see what the signal strength is for your home:

http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx
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Type		Call SignChannelNetworkCity, StateLive
Date		Compass
Heading		Miles
From		RF
Channel
*yellow
uhf		KBGS-DT16.1INDBILLINGS, MT86°5.416
*yellow
vhf		KULR-DT8.1NBCBILLINGS, MT92°5.711
*yellow
vhf		KTVQ-DT2.1CBSBILLINGS, MT88°5.410
*red
uhf		K20HB-D20.1PBSBOZEMAN, MT88°5.420
*red
uhf		KSVI-DT6.1ABCBILLINGS, MT68°11.118
*blue
uhf		K25BP-D25.1ABCBILLINGS, MT87°5.425
*violet
uhf		KHMT-DT4.1FOXHARDIN, MT86°20.922
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:01 AM   #2
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DTVAntenna
Type		Call SignChannelNetworkCity, StateLive
Date		Compass
Heading		Miles
From		RF
Channel
*yellow
uhf		KBGS-DT16.1INDBILLINGS, MT
86°5.416
*yellow
vhf		KULR-DT8.1NBCBILLINGS, MT
92°5.711
*yellow
vhf		KTVQ-DT2.1CBSBILLINGS, MT
88°5.410
*red
uhf		K20HB-D20.1PBSBOZEMAN, MT
88°5.420
*red
uhf		KSVI-DT6.1ABCBILLINGS, MT
68°11.118
*blue
uhf		K25BP-D25.1ABCBILLINGS, MT
87°5.425
*violet
uhf		KHMT-DT4.1FOXHARDIN, MT
86°20.922
Sorry to say, you will never get FOX in a consistent manner, no matter what antenna/booster you have. You're too far away, or there are obstructions between you and the tower.
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:04 AM   #3
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Sorry to say, you will never get FOX in a consistent matter, no matter what antenna/booster you have. You're too far away, or there are obstructions between you and the tower.
Ouch, well I'm not moving to the rez, so I'll have live with it. I will just thave to figure out the best choice, given that information.

FOX had an edge before the digital switch, but vanished after that.
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:07 AM   #4
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check out directv.com i was looking at it yesterday they have some sort of signal booster for 50 dollars
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:12 AM   #5
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check out directv.com i was looking at it yesterday they have some sort of signal booster for 50 dollars
I was on the horn with them last Sunday raising all kinds of hell ,when I had to miss the Playoff game on FOX. That's a solid Idea, I just don't know if that would be the ticket in this case?
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:08 AM   #6
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Ouch, well I'm not moving to the rez, so I'll have live with it. I will just thave to figure out the best choice, given that information.

FOX had an edge before the digital switch, but vanished after that.
Go to the Channel Master site and send them an email. Tell them your situation and see what they say. They have good techs and support. Send them your signal strength info, too.
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:13 AM   #7
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Go to the Channel Master site and send them an email. Tell them your situation and see what they say. They have good techs and support. Send them your signal strength info, too.
I'm on it, thank you!
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:17 AM   #8
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I'm on it, thank you!
One more thing. If Channel Master recommends a deep fringe antenna, I'd take that with a grain of salt. Those antennas are for unobstructed signals that are 50+ miles away. In your case you're only 20 miles from the FOX tower. That says to me you have hills (or some other obstruction) between your home and the tower. A deep fringe antenna won't solve that problem.
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Old 01-16-2010, 10:27 AM   #9
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One more thing. If Channel Master recommends a deep fringe antenna, I'd take that with a grain of salt. Those antennas are for unobstructed signals that are 50+ miles away. In your case you're only 20 miles from the FOX tower. That says to me you have hills (or some other obstruction) between your home and the tower. A deep fringe antenna won't solve that problem.
That may indeed be the case. I was also told at one point in time, that I could point an antenna in their direction (FOX) and get the signal, but then I would not be able to get the other locals. It was almost an either or, because of the direction. I have no idea, he could have been full of poo. I have all but given up on FOX, but I get ticked off when I'm watching one of the other locals, I'm half way through a show, it fades out and the searching for signal message pops up. I need to figure something out before the remote goes through the front of the TV at a high rate of speed.
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Ouch, well I'm not moving to the rez, so I'll have live with it. I will just thave to figure out the best choice, given that information.

FOX had an edge before the digital switch, but vanished after that.
the analog signals were a lot stronger, digital require as much power
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Same power level of analog versus digital results in 12dB coverage loss, and at most of the frequencies used, dramatically increasing the transmitted power does not increase coverage. It is the nature of the beast at UHF frequencies.
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The results:

DTVAntenna
Type		Call SignChannelNetworkCity, StateLive
Date		Compass
Heading		Miles
From		RF
Channel
*yellow
uhf		KBGS-DT16.1INDBILLINGS, MT86°5.416
*yellow
vhf		KULR-DT8.1NBCBILLINGS, MT92°5.711
*yellow
vhf		KTVQ-DT2.1CBSBILLINGS, MT88°5.410
*red
uhf		K20HB-D20.1PBSBOZEMAN, MT88°5.420
*red
uhf		KSVI-DT6.1ABCBILLINGS, MT68°11.118
*blue
uhf		K25BP-D25.1ABCBILLINGS, MT87°5.425
*violet
uhf		KHMT-DT4.1FOXHARDIN, MT86°20.922
With the exception of the ABC station at 68° no need for a rotor.
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With the exception of the ABC station at 68° no need for a rotor.
So is there a specific antenna you would go with in this case?
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So is there a specific antenna you would go with in this case?
I wouldn't invest in a "multi-directional" antenna. They promise more than they deliver.
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I wouldn't invest in a "multi-directional" antenna. They promise more than they deliver.
So given the results I posted, if you were in my shoes, which model would you hang on the roof?
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