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Old 01-16-2010, 11:09 AM  
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Bill Simmons on Tom Brady/Matt Cassel
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The Montreal Screw-Job Award for "Most Shocking Turn on a Beloved Figure"

I didn't call my father during the first half of the Baltimore beating. There was nothing to say. When you give up an 83-yard run to start a game against a team you know wants to run 40 times, you kinda know how it's going to turn out. We all knew the 2009 Patriots had a playoff stink bomb in them; just not in Round 1 at home. Anyway, I was too depressed to call him at halftime. After another Brady interception in the third quarter, my cell phone started vibrating. Yup, it was a text from my dad.

"We never should have traded Cassel."

(Ouch.)
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Old 01-16-2010, 04:43 PM   #196
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Out of all the quarterbacks ive seen, that guy threw the best ball imo. Bold statement I know.
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Old 01-16-2010, 04:47 PM   #197
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Out of all the quarterbacks ive seen, that guy threw the best ball imo. Bold statement I know.
I agree, unfortunately, as clutch as he was in Canada, he always managed to make one play less than he had to in the NFL playoffs. I'd rank him with Marino,Tarkenton, and Fouts in the early teens.
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Old 01-16-2010, 04:59 PM   #198
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Again What was the alternative??? Even Sanchez is at best a game manager.
And you just said game managers have won super bowls. Brady was in 2001. All I'm saying is give the guy an OC and a decent supporting cast and a ****ing chance if after this year the Chiefs aren't at least 8-8 and Cassel hasn't improved a ton then flame away. But to make these judgements that he and Pioli are failures already is assinine.
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At best? . Yeah, his ceiling is pretty well defined.

That said, of course Cassel needs more tools/weapons surrounding him.
The thing they don't get or refuse to acknowledge, is that unlike Sirs Brady and Cassel, whose college careers could best be defined as a non-existent, well-executed fart, Mark Sanchez actually played as a starter and a leader for his team, and led them to a Bowl.
And as such, his difficulties at the pro level are do largely in part to his refusal to give up on the play. Forcing, trying to make something happen when he should know to let it go. That comes with time and experience, and his arm and mechanics are just fine.
He'll do fine or better than fine as the years roll by.
Of course, being part of an organization that doesn't have it's head up it's ass helps as well, yes.
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Old 01-16-2010, 05:09 PM   #199
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I agree, unfortunately, as clutch as he was in Canada, he always managed to make one play less than he had to in the NFL playoffs. I'd rank him with Marino,Tarkenton, and Fouts in the early teens.
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The Houston Oilers may in fact be one of the greatest non-superbowl teams. But they just always managed to choke for some reason and Moon had to be a part of that which was the sad part.

I think had he played more he would have shattered Elway, Marino, Tarkenton all those guys records. Imagine if you add 5 more years of NFL experience to his career? If you add up the total amount of passing yards from both his CFL and NFL career I think its equal to or greater than 70,000 THAT is phenomenal

And if he won championships in the NFL, people would be talking about him as the greatest ever. Although he was a winner, you just don't hear much of the CFL since it is a lower class league. Moon is top 5 in my books.
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I wonder how many people that read this thread even know what the Montreal screwjob even refers to.
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Old 01-16-2010, 05:15 PM   #201
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I wonder how many people that read this thread even know what the Montreal screwjob even refers to.
Doesn't that have to do with wrestling?
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Old 01-16-2010, 05:18 PM   #202
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Well, if that is the way they feel about it, I would gladly trade them back Cassel and Vrabel for the Pat's 2nd this April.
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Well, if that is the way they feel about it, I would gladly trade them back Cassel and Vrabel for the Pat's 2nd this April.
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I wonder how many people that read this thread even know what the Montreal screwjob even refers to.
It's what happens when a straight guy walks into a a montreal strip club advertising "danseurs".
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Old 01-16-2010, 06:28 PM   #205
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It was Bill Simmons' dad, a guy who if you ever read his columns, is the most fickle fan imaginable.

Jesus, you're a ****ing reerun.
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Moon is top 5 in my books.
Moon was a hell of QB, but top 5?

What hell is your dumb ass smoking?
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The thing I love the most about this thread, other than displaying yet another facet of Hootie's unending dumbassery, is the fact that it's based on an entirely false premise.
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The thing I love the most about this thread, other than displaying yet another facet of Hootie's unending dumbassery, is the fact that it's based on an entirely false premise.
you don't think I know it was a tongue-in-cheek comment by Bill Simmons' dad?

I've read every piece of Bill Simmons literature for the last 8 years of my life.
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To the people that were asking of Sorgi could win 11 games in Indys system..No..and only because Jim Sorgi shouldnt even be in the NFL..So what if Cassel/Brady play in a system..Obviously not everyone is capable of playin in it (See Kevin O'Connell)..If Manning had a decent backup that had to play, I wouldnt rule out a possible 10 win season
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