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Old 10-18-2009, 09:31 AM  
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Peyton Manning
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Do you guys still think Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning?

Everyone always said that he played with the better supporting cast...which is why Tom was better.

Now Peyton is playing behind a terrible offensive line and throwing to the likes of Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon...having arguably his best year ever...just like I always said...it wasn't the OTHER players...it was Peyton Manning.

So...

Is Brady still better than Manning?

Just curious.
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He won as many SB's as our franchise has.
That has A LOT to do with this conversation.
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:13 AM   #302
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Look the Saints had a better gameplan, after the first quarter they outplayed the Colts for the most part. The Colts coaching staff coached extremely tight once the Saints got back in it.
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:14 AM   #303
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oh and polian and dungy have nothing to do with mannings one shining moment either i guess
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:14 AM   #304
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Who is? You seem more interested in great plays and statistics than wins.

Games are not won on 40 yard passes for the most part. Game management is what wins games. Brees managed his game better than Manning. And he won.
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That has A LOT to do with this conversation.
About as much as bringing up Robert Meachem as a comparison for a perennial pro bowl player.
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they were in hurry up mode playing against the clock...shit is going to happen...

football is a game of inches...the three plays that were needed to win a game that featured little defense all went to the Saints...

Plain and simple.

If I thought Manning was at fault for the loss, I'd peg it with him and eat my crow...I call them like I see it and in no way can I pin that loss to Peyton Manning.

I'm sorry...

Just can't do it. Only so many times in a season can one player continuously bail an entire team out...yesterday just wasn't meant to be.
He could have made a better pass when he needed it to, or like other people have said, passed it to a open Collie underneath.
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The only OMG pass I remember was the pass to Clark. My jaw dropped on that one. Other than that, what other passes were there?
well off the top of my head I'll give you the pass to Garcon that Garcon dropped...

those are passes on 3rd down that 99% of QB's just can't make...

he also routinely hits his 3rd or 4th option on pass plays...not many QB's can progress through reads so quickly and with such ease...that throw to Clark on 3rd down near the goalline looked simple bit it was actually such a great play by Manning...

the guy just amazes me...

even when they lose
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oh and polian and dungy have nothing to do with mannings one shining moment either i guess
i'll fix this for you...

manning has a lot more to do with their shining moment than they have to do with his...

I promise you that.

Maybe Manning only wins 1 Super Bowl...

but he was going to win a Super Bowl with ANY team that drafted him...maybe more with some and less with others.
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i was amazed too. im amazed when the greatest qb of all time shits himself
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About as much as bringing up Robert Meachem as a comparison for a perennial pro bowl player.
That had a lot to do with the conversation. You said Manning couldn't win with Wayne having a shitty game. Well then, how was Brees able to win when the guy who was tied with Colston for the 2nd most TDs on the team having a shitty game?

You are talking about Manning winning a SB and the Chiefs not. WTF does that have to do with anything?
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He could have made a better pass when he needed it to, or like other people have said, passed it to a open Collie underneath.
yeah, he could have...

you're absolutely, 100% correct

but you're never going to find a perfect QB in the NFL...ever

Peyton Manning is, however, as close as I've ever seen. That's for sure.
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I don't know why this guy is trying to turn this into a "what I say/reverse it to the Saints ordeal"...

I'm not taking anything away from the Saints...Payton rebounded from a terrible NFC Championship game and coached a marvelous game...Brees executed his gameplan almost flawlessly...and the Saints did what they did all year...sucked on defense but came up with a big homerun when they needed it most.

Kudos to them.

All I'm saying is...

Not Peyton's fault.

Team effort in this one.

Do I think the better team won?

Nope.
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That had a lot to do with the conversation. You said Manning couldn't win with Wayne having a shitty game. Well then, how was Brees able to win when the guy who was tied with Colston for the 2nd most TDs on the team having a shitty game?

You are talking about Manning winning a SB and the Chiefs not. WTF does that have to do with anything?
All I said was Reggie Wayne picked the Super Bowl to have the worst game I've ever seen him play, that doesn't remotely imply that couldn't possibly win that way, just that he was ****ing awful when he's suppose to be a star.

I don't know how that implies they couldn't possibly win with Wayne sucking or that it somehow compares to Robert Meachem who isn't even a starter.
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