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Hootie · 10-18-2009, 09:31 AM

So...

Do you guys still think Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning?

Everyone always said that he played with the better supporting cast...which is why Tom was better.

Now Peyton is playing behind a terrible offensive line and throwing to the likes of Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon...having arguably his best year ever...just like I always said...it wasn't the OTHER players...it was Peyton Manning.

So...

Is Brady still better than Manning?

Just curious.

DBOSHO · 02-09-2010, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

not to mention Peyton Manning officially has better postseason stats than Tom Brady now...

but Tom has more wins!

(Wonder why that is?)

If Joe Montana was a Saint for his entire career...how many Super Bowls would he have won?

dude stop acting like manning got stuck on the raiders.

Hootie · 02-09-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

If we want to go that route, what did peyton have to do with his lone championship?

throw a touchdown and watch the defense and running game go to work.

uhm...

he controlled the T.O.P. for 38 minutes against the 2nd best defense the NFL has seen in 20 years...and won MVP in the game.

What a ****ing myth that is...

Manning outplayed Brady (who through a season ending pick that year) in the AFC Championship game...and then played a marvelous game in the Super Bowl...they were down 7-0 and then he threw a 3rd and 20 pick on their first series...and then all he did after that was control the clock for 2/3 of the game and win in easy fashion against a defense that took Rex Grossman to the Super Bowl.

The Tom Dragon · 02-09-2010, 02:32 PM

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at least brady pre-pollard version
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pre pollard? isn't it odd because he had a bad defense he automatically sucks now...he had his second best season in every passing category

DBOSHO · 02-09-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

no but I have made the Kennison/Harrison argument for YEARS and was mocked...but then Garcon comes in and all of the sudden he looks an awful lot like an all-pro in the making?

Hmm...

But I bet it's just all Bill Polian.

could be that dallas clark and reggie wayne are getting doubled alot of plays

The Tom Dragon · 02-09-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

uhm...

he controlled the T.O.P. for 38 minutes against the 2nd best defense the NFL has seen in 20 years...and won MVP in the game.

What a ****ing myth that is...

Manning outplayed Brady (who through a season ending pick that year) in the AFC Championship game...and then played a marvelous game in the Super Bowl...they were down 7-0 and then he threw a 3rd and 20 pick on their first series...and then all he did after that was control the clock for 2/3 of the game and win in easy fashion against a defense that took Rex Grossman to the Super Bowl.

that's all well and good...what happened in the last 3 minutes of the most recent game in the NFL?

Hootie · 02-09-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

dude stop acting like manning got stuck on the raiders.

The Colts were a shit organization that meant NOTHING to Indianapolis before he get drafted.

Hootie · 02-09-2010, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tom Dragon

pre pollard? isn't it odd because he had a bad defense he automatically sucks now...he had his second best season in every passing category

and literally lost the game for the Patriots against the Ravens in the Wild Card within 11 minutes of the game.

The Tom Dragon · 02-09-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

This argument is dead.

Try to follow along.

Harrison retires.

Enter Garcon and Collie.

Suddenly both look like all-pro caliber receivers...

Hmm...

Wonder what the common denominator is?

try to follow along...

here comes wes welker

cut by the chargers

traded by the dolphins

leads the league in catches?

DBOSHO · 02-09-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

uhm...

he controlled the T.O.P. for 38 minutes against the 2nd best defense the NFL has seen in 20 years...and won MVP in the game.

What a ****ing myth that is...

Manning outplayed Brady (who through a season ending pick that year) in the AFC Championship game...and then played a marvelous game in the Super Bowl...they were down 7-0 and then he threw a 3rd and 20 pick on their first series...and then all he did after that was control the clock for 2/3 of the game and win in easy fashion against a defense that took Rex Grossman to the Super Bowl.

watch the afc champ game and find 1, ONE tough throw that manning threw in the 2nd half. quick slants and rb dumpoffs. tough.

oh, and brady never threw a season ending pick in the superbowl.

Tango&Cash · 02-09-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

The Colts were a shit organization that meant NOTHING to Indianapolis before he get drafted.

Didn't they make the playoffs with Jim Harbaugh a couple seasons before Manning was drafted. Surely as Chiefs fans, how in the hell can you NOT rememeber THAT game?!?!?

The Tom Dragon · 02-09-2010, 02:37 PM

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and literally lost the game for the Patriots against the Ravens in the Wild Card within 11 minutes of the game.

and once again..what happened in the last 3 minutes of the super bowl?

Hootie · 02-09-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tom Dragon

that's all well and good...what happened in the last 3 minutes of the most recent game in the NFL?

ok...

and that's why this shifted from Manning GOAT to Montana...

No one is talking about Brady anymore because that debate is CLOSED.

Everyone knows it...

The Colts are still going to be in the mix every year...the Patriots are going to be like the Celtics now...they'll probably win their division...and then they'll lose in the 1st or 2nd round...

They are done.

That onside kick doesn't happen...the Colts probably win. That extra possession swung the entire momentum of the game...gave the Saints a 13-10 lead before the Colts answered...the Colts go up 17-6...the Saints are playing catch up rather than the Colts...

When they went up 24-17 Manning KNEW they had to score with 3+ minutes left (which is why they were in such hurry up mode) because otherwise the Saints would march down into field goal range and just end the game in regulation...with 3 minutes and 3 TO's they had a little leeway...

A play no one talks about that really helped the Saints was when that dude got injured on 3rd and 5 and they went to an injury timeout...Manning was tearing them apart with the hurry up...that gave them a chance to regroup and call a play and have the right personnel out there...and then he throws the pick.

Hootie · 02-09-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tom Dragon

try to follow along...

here comes wes welker

cut by the chargers

traded by the dolphins

leads the league in catches?

wes welker was great in miami...

they traded a 2nd and 7th for him and only a 4th for Moss...

They expected Welker to patrol their slot the way he has...

DBOSHO · 02-09-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

and literally lost the game for the Patriots against the Ravens in the Wild Card within 11 minutes of the game.

its quite obvious that its toms fault that the defense was giving up 35yds per rush and the oline couldnt block a pee-wee football team.

DBOSHO · 02-09-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

ok...

and that's why this shifted from Manning GOAT to Montana...

No one is talking about Brady anymore because that debate is CLOSED.

Everyone knows it...

The Colts are still going to be in the mix every year...the Patriots are going to be like the Celtics now...they'll probably win their division...and then they'll lose in the 1st or 2nd round...

They are done.

That onside kick doesn't happen...the Colts probably win. That extra possession swung the entire momentum of the game...gave the Saints a 13-10 lead before the Colts answered...the Colts go up 17-6...the Saints are playing catch up rather than the Colts...

When they went up 24-17 Manning KNEW they had to score with 3+ minutes left (which is why they were in such hurry up mode) because otherwise the Saints would march down into field goal range and just end the game in regulation...with 3 minutes and 3 TO's they had a little leeway...

A play no one talks about that really helped the Saints was when that dude got injured on 3rd and 5 and they went to an injury timeout...Manning was tearing them apart with the hurry up...that gave them a chance to regroup and call a play and have the right personnel out there...and then he throws the pick.

you really have every excuse in the book.

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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Peyton Manning So... Do you guys still think Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning? Everyone always said that he played with the better supporting cast...which is why Tom was better. Now Peyton is playing behind a terrible offensive line and throwing to the likes of Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon...having arguably his best year ever...just like I always said...it wasn't the OTHER players...it was Peyton Manning. So... Is Brady still better than Manning? Just curious.
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