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Old 02-12-2010, 07:31 PM   #1
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If he was horrible, what's that make our guy? That's the problem with this...
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Old 02-12-2010, 07:33 PM   #2
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Old 02-12-2010, 07:40 PM   #3
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If he was horrible, what's that make our guy? That's the problem with this...
Also horrible?

Looking at their individual performance should be and is a mutually-exclusive thing. Judge them for how they did on their own merits, not how they did compared to each other. At least that's how I try to look at it.

Maybe I find it easier since I don't fall into any particular camp. Although, technically, if we have to talk about them together, then, well, I guess I'd have to say I wanted Sanchez more than I wanted Cassel (who I wanted not at all...). The only good thing I've ever been able to say about that trade is that it cost less than I expected. Which still doesn't change the fact that I didn't see Sanchez as a top-5 value, because of his experience, or lack thereof. But in the end my view of one has never had anything to do with my view of the other.
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:03 PM   #4
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That's a different argument all together. Sanchez did have the advantage of playing with the top ranked defense and top running game which Cassell did not. Based on the numbers Cassell was marginally better this year then Sanchez. Sanchez had the situation advantage, Cassell had the advantage of having a full season under his belt.

My opinion frankly is Cassell will have to be dropped into a situation similar to what Sanchez has to have any post season success in his career. I'm hoping he is just the transition guy and we make a move on Bradford or another QB this year.
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:04 PM   #5
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That's a different argument all together. Sanchez did have the advantage of playing with the top ranked defense and top running game which Cassell did not. Based on the numbers Cassell was marginally better this year then Sanchez. Sanchez had the situation advantage, Cassell had the advantage of having a full season under his belt.

My opinion frankly is Cassell will have to be dropped into a situation similar to what Sanchez has to have any post season success in his career. I'm hoping he is just the transition guy and we make a move on Bradford or another QB this year.
Ok so you are essentially admitting that trading for Matt Cassel was incredibly stupid?
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:10 PM   #6
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Ok so you are essentially admitting that trading for Matt Cassel was incredibly stupid?
I wouldn't say that. They gave up a 2nd round pick for the guy. If he is just the transition QB and they plan on developing someone pretty quick then I think it was an okay move. The fact that his contract was front loaded makes me tend to believe that MIGHT be there thinking, the fact that they didn't take a QB or make a play for a young backup last year tells me different. If they put all the eggs in his basket then yes, it was probably a mistake, if they have a good contingent plan in place then I can live with it.
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He was worse than Sanchez...Sanchez performed like a rookie QB which he was, Cassel performed like a rookie QB while supposedly having experience.
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Looking at their individual performance should be and is a mutually-exclusive thing. Judge them for how they did on their own merits, not how they did compared to each other. At least that's how I try to look at it.

Maybe I find it easier since I don't fall into any particular camp. Although, technically, if we have to talk about them together, then, well, I guess I'd have to say I wanted Sanchez more than I wanted Cassel (who I wanted not at all...). The only good thing I've ever been able to say about that trade is that it cost less than I expected. Which still doesn't change the fact that I didn't see Sanchez as a top-5 value, because of his experience, or lack thereof. But in the end my view of one has never had anything to do with my view of the other.
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But if you want to tell yourself that you'd rather have Matt Cassel and Tyson Jackson and that's better for the teams future by all means whatever it takes to make you feel better.
So wait, saying Sanchez had a horrible rookie season is saying I'd rather have Matt Cassel and Tyson Jackson?

Well, gee, thanks for clearing that up for me, Great Karnak!
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Ok so you are essentially admitting that trading for Matt Cassel was incredibly stupid?
I can't talk for him, but I'll say trading for Cassel was stupid.

And I'll also say that Sanchez had a horrible rookie season.

Because neither fact has anything to do with the other.

That's what I'm saying. I'm not someone who believes every comment about one has to be somehow inextricably linked to the other. At the end of the day I still don't want Cassel and I still wouldn't have given up a top-5 pick for Sanchez. Stafford? Sure.

I still wish we'd found a way to get Ryan. I think he'll be better than all of them.
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