Your grade of each individual pick in our draft.

[Chiefnj2]

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[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

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The shame of it is, it's still not funny.

I'll eat some crow on Succop, however. Dude was our ****ing offensive MVP this season.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

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Sure, hate on a guy who put his opinion out there and dared to be optimistic.

It is way too ****ing easy to be pessimistic, to snipe, to keep your opinions to yourself for fear that the Draft Gods or Haters will trounce your opinion until it's irrelevent to everybody but your mother.

I'm not going to just shit out happy thoughts and pray. I genuinely thought this was a good Draft, and TO BE FAIR, virtually every single one of these picks were projects, something which I hadn't anticipated on Draft Day. Jackson and Succop are the ONLY players from this Draft that were readymade.

So no, the jury is still out a couple more years. And I could still be wrong. But I'm not going to resign to blind pessimism simply because it's easier to be that way.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Sure, hate on a guy who put his opinion out there and dared to be optimistic.

It is way too ****ing easy to be pessimistic, to snipe, to keep your opinions to yourself for fear that the Draft Gods or Haters will trounce your opinion until it's irrelevent to everybody but your mother.

I'm not going to just shit out happy thoughts and pray. I genuinely thought this was a good Draft, and TO BE FAIR, virtually every single one of these picks were projects, something which I hadn't anticipated on Draft Day. Jackson and Succop are the ONLY players from this Draft that were readymade.

So no, the jury is still out a couple more years. And I could still be wrong. But I'm not going to resign to blind pessimism simply because it's easier to be that way.

The bump wasn't aimed at you. I was just looking for an initial reaction thread. Between now and the draft there will be 100s of posts about how stupid other people are for wanting X, Y, Z instead of A, B, C. In all likelihood everyone will be disappointed at the end of the day.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The bump wasn't aimed at you. I was just looking for an initial reaction thread. Between now and the draft there will be 100s of posts about how stupid other people are for wanting X, Y, Z instead of A, B, C. In all likelihood everyone will be disappointed at the end of the day.

Disappointed with the Chiefs selections or with the rookie seasons of guys the Chiefs passed on?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Sure, hate on a guy who put his opinion out there and dared to be optimistic.

It is way too ****ing easy to be pessimistic, to snipe, to keep your opinions to yourself for fear that the Draft Gods or Haters will trounce your opinion until it's irrelevent to everybody but your mother.

I'm not going to just shit out happy thoughts and pray. I genuinely thought this was a good Draft, and TO BE FAIR, virtually every single one of these picks were projects, something which I hadn't anticipated on Draft Day. Jackson and Succop are the ONLY players from this Draft that were readymade.

So no, the jury is still out a couple more years. And I could still be wrong. But I'm not going to resign to blind pessimism simply because it's easier to be that way.

I'd have more respect for this post if it

A) acknowledged that you gave the Chiefs a C- for their 2008 draft

B) acknowledged that the "perpetual pessimists" were up in arms with joy over the 2008 draft.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'd have more respect for this post if it

A) acknowledged that you gave the Chiefs a C- for their 2008 draft

B) acknowledged that the "perpetual pessimists" were up in arms with joy over the 2008 draft.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'd have more respect for this post if it

A) acknowledged that you gave the Chiefs a C- for their 2008 draft

B) acknowledged that the "perpetual pessimists" were up in arms with joy over the 2008 draft.

A) is sort of odd to me.

The dude gives the 2008 draft a C- when everyone was RAVING about how excellent we made out, and then when everyone talks about how terrible our 2009 draft was he comes out with some good grades...

Sounds like a case of attention whoring to me. I don't like it when people don't call them how they see it...I may be wrong at times but at least I call them how I see them.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

A) is sort of odd to me.

The dude gives the 2008 draft a C- when everyone was RAVING about how excellent we made out, and then when everyone talks about how terrible our 2009 draft was he comes out with some good grades...

Sounds like a case of attention whoring to me. I don't like it when people don't call them how they see it...I may be wrong at times but at least I call them how I see them.

Talk to the guys I debated with ALL OFFSEASON about how consistent that first day Draft grade was. Mecca, OTW, milkman -- we had tons of debates over it.

I really liked the Dorsey pick, but I would have preferred Sedrick Ellis. Which I said.

I really hated the Albert pick, because converting a guard to tackle, especially trading up for it, was such a risky proposition I wanted no part of it in a rebuilding year. Milkman and I went 100 rounds on it.

I was incredibly hesitant about the Flowers selection because of what I thought were character concerns. And I said so, Mecca criticized me for it.

My takes typically have always run counter to what a lot of people's, but I've worked for and earned a reputation for being as straightforward with my preferences as anybody here.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'd have more respect for this post if it

A) acknowledged that you gave the Chiefs a C- for their 2008 draft

B) acknowledged that the "perpetual pessimists" were up in arms with joy over the 2008 draft.

I gave a C- for their first day. I was happy about the Chiefs' second day. But forget it.

Being an optimist doesn't always mean you're happy with what the team does. Being a pessimist doesn't always mean you're unhappy with what the team does.

Unlike you guys, I understand I literally have nothing to gain from being right, and nothing to gain from being wrong. I've been dead wrong on this Draft so far, but I do what you do. I put in my time reading and watching, I wager my best guesses, I try to stay consistent and organic with my preferences, and then hope the Chiefs are right.

I do it more openly than most (one year I had a running total of the top five players available throughout the entire mock), so I'm a lightning rod for the laziest kind of criticism. To mock me for that is ridiculous.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Sure, hate on a guy who put his opinion out there and dared to be optimistic.

It is way too ****ing easy to be pessimistic, to snipe, to keep your opinions to yourself for fear that the Draft Gods or Haters will trounce your opinion until it's irrelevent to everybody but your mother.

I'm not going to just shit out happy thoughts and pray. I genuinely thought this was a good Draft, and TO BE FAIR, virtually every single one of these picks were projects, something which I hadn't anticipated on Draft Day. Jackson and Succop are the ONLY players from this Draft that were readymade.

So no, the jury is still out a couple more years. And I could still be wrong. But I'm not going to resign to blind pessimism simply because it's easier to be that way.

All you have is hope.

The bottom line is that outside of Mr. Irrelevant, this draft ****ing sucked ass.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

All you have is hope.

Damn ****ing straight.

If that's wrong, then as the expression goes, I don't want to be right.