The plan

Ralphy Boy · 12:20 AM

Sign Dansby & Ben Watson (shut it)
Draft
1 - 5, Berry, S - Best player on the board at a position of serious need
2 - 36, Jason Pierre-Paul, OLB - He's climbing and a lot of people think he goes in the first, but there are a lot that think he's a top of the 2nd guy too.
2 - 50, Cam Thomas, NT - I don't think he'll last until round 3. 330 lb NT prospects probably won't in this draft.
3 - 69, Arrelious Benn, WR - Had a 1,000 year as a sophmore and got hurt his junior year, for a couple of games, and didn't put up big numbers so he could slide into the top of the third round. He has an ability we need in a WR; to adjust to a poorly thrown ball.
4 - 104, Kyle Calloway, RT - He or Ciron Black could very well be here.
5 - 141, Clay Harbor, TE - CBS has him rated as a 4th rounder, but he played at Missouri State so he could go undrafted. I've said before that I think this kid is the real deal and I wouldn't want to miss out on him.
5 - 147, Eric Olsen, C - Weis loves him and since they wouldn't let him have Clausen...
5 - 152, Freddie Barnes, WR - Hands of gold.
6 - 179, Myron Rolle, SS - Yeah I don't think he'll be available either, but some sites have him falling this far, so if he did, I'd be all over it.

RustShack · 02-17-2010, 10:09 PM

Why would we sign Dansby when we have DJ? What does Watson give us that Pope/Cottam doesn't? How do we draft first round pick Paul in the second? I would jizz if we got Benn in the third, and same with Rolle in the sixth especially since we don't have a pick in the sixth.

milkman · 02-17-2010, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Why would we sign Dansby when we have DJ? What does Watson give us that Pope/Cottam doesn't? How do we draft first round pick Paul in the second? I would jizz if we got Benn in the third, and same with Rolle in the sixth especially since we don't have a pick in the sixth.

You forgot to ask him if he watches football.

Mecca · 02-17-2010, 10:17 PM

Oh for the love of God.

Jason Pierre Paul is going to go in the top 15, and Benn might I stress might make it to the Chiefs first 2nd round pick, the 3rd is laughable.

L.A. Chieffan · 02-17-2010, 10:18 PM

Thats a great plan man. Swiss ****ing watch if i understand it correctly.

Ralphy Boy · 02-17-2010, 10:29 PM

2010 depth chart
Offense:
QB - Cassel, Croyle, Gutierrez
RB - Charles, Smith
FB - Cox, Castille
WR - Bowe, Barnes, Long
WR - Chambers, Benn
TE - Watson, Pope, Harbor
LT - Albert, Richardson
LG - Waters, Alleman
C - Olsen, Smith
RG - Smith, Alleman
RT - Calloway, O'Callaghan

Defense:
LE - Jackson, Gilberry
NT - Thomas, Edwards - lots of shared PT while Thomas gets up to speed
RE - Dorsey, Magee
LOLB - Pierre-Paul, Studebaker
LILB - Johnson, Williams
RILB - Dansby, Mays, Belcher
ROLB - Hali, Walters
LCB - Flowers, Richardson, Daniels
RCB - Carr, Washington, Leggett
SS - Brown, Rolle
FS - Berry, Page
K - Succop
P - Colquitt

Stanley Nickels · 02-17-2010, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

Sign Dansby & Ben Watson (shut it)
Draft
1 - 3, Berry, S - Best player on the board at a position of serious need
2 - 36, Jason Pierre-Paul, OLB - He's climbing and a lot of people think he goes in the first, but there are a lot that think he's a top of the 2nd guy too.
2 - 50, Cam Thomas, NT - I don't think he'll last until round 3. 330 lb NT prospects probably won't in this draft.
3 - 69, Arrelious Benn, WR - Had a 1,000 year as a sophmore and got hurt his junior year, for a couple of games, and didn't put up big numbers so he could slide into the top of the third round. He has an ability we need in a WR; to adjust to a poorly thrown ball.

...erm..
we draft fifth, pierre-paul will not be there at 36, cam thomas will not be there at 50, and arrelious benn will not be there at 50, let alone 69.

**MahiMike** · 02-17-2010, 10:31 PM

I like the Dansby pick. DJ will be traded away IMO.

Mecca · 02-17-2010, 10:33 PM

Dansby is going to end up with the Giants, that's my thought anyway.

**The Bad Guy** · 02-17-2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Dansby is going to end up with the Giants, that's my thought anyway.

Disagree. Fewell wants fast, light linebackers for the cover 2 shell scheme he will run. I think Gary Brackett ends up in Indy.

I think Dansby ends up in New England.

Mecca · 02-17-2010, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Disagree. Fewell wants fast, light linebackers for the cover 2 shell scheme he will run. I think Gary Brackett ends up in Indy.

I think Dansby ends up in New England.

I've thought all along that Dansby would either end up with the Giants or Redskins.

Perry Fewell is terrible the cover 2 is so out of date, the fact that the Giants hired him is so incredibly laughable.

Ebolapox · 02-17-2010, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Disagree. Fewell wants fast, light linebackers for the cover 2 shell scheme he will run. I think Gary Brackett ends up in Indy.

I think Dansby ends up in New England.

isn't gary brackett already IN indy?

Ralphy Boy · 02-17-2010, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Why would we sign Dansby when we have DJ? What does Watson give us that Pope/Cottam doesn't? How do we draft first round pick Paul in the second? I would jizz if we got Benn in the third, and same with Rolle in the sixth especially since we don't have a pick in the sixth.

Did you even bother to read the comments next to the player?

Paul isn't guaranteed to be a first rounder, there are sites that have him going later.

Watson is better than both Pope & Cottam, by far. Not because he chased down Champ Bailey. He's a LOT better athlete than both and aside from being a superior athlete, the thing he gives us over them is speed.

Sixth round pick, your right, my bad. Shoot me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Oh for the love of God.

Jason Pierre Paul is going to go in the top 15, and Benn might I stress might make it to the Chiefs first 2nd round pick, the 3rd is laughable.

Most sites don't have Paul in the top 15. Paul is projected on some sites at later picks"early 2nd and#41 overall.
There are multiple highly rated DE/OLB types that are getting first round consideration and someone will fall, but yes Paul is the hot name right now.

Benn is projected as a 2nd on a few sites and a 3rd on1,. Again, I said he "could slide into the 3rd", not that he would.

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Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels

...erm..
we draft fifth, pierre-paul will not be there at 36, cam thomas will not be there at 50, and arrelious benn will not be there at 50, let alone 69.

Yes, forgive me for typing "3" instead of "5".

Regarding Thomas, I suggested getting him in the 2nd and was referred to a few sites that had him going in the 3rd or later.

Mecca · 02-17-2010, 11:28 PM

There's a better chance Benn will go in the 1st round than the one of him falling to the 3rd. And the offseason process is going to make Pierre Paul a high riser, I fully expect him to be a top 15 pick at worst.

Ralphy Boy · 02-17-2010, 11:44 PM

There are always players who get first round publicity and still fall farther than some expect.
In Arizona, they have a bunch of them:
Anquan Boldin - slow 40 time dropped him from a 1st rounder to the 54th pick
Early Doucet - was projected to be a late first rounder and ended up getting picked in the 3rd
Calais Campbell - Was a 6'8" freak coming out of Miami but had a poor combine and pro day and slipped to #50
Karlos Dansby - Was projected to go in the late 1st but slipped to the #33 pick
Darnell Dockett - Also projected as a 1st rounder before going at pick #64

There's always players that fall below where they were projected or rated: Vince Wilfork, Big Ben...Maclin fell last year thanks to Oakland's screw up, Maualuga was considered a steal in the 2nd by more than a few thanks to a bad combine, Everette Brown dropped last year, Connor Barwin was considered a fringe 1st by a lot, Michael Johnson dropped to the third.

02-17-2010, 10:02 PM
Ralphy Boy MVP Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	The plan Sign Dansby & Ben Watson (shut it) Draft 1 - 5, Berry, S - Best player on the board at a position of serious need 2 - 36, Jason Pierre-Paul, OLB - He's climbing and a lot of people think he goes in the first, but there are a lot that think he's a top of the 2nd guy too. 2 - 50, Cam Thomas, NT - I don't think he'll last until round 3. 330 lb NT prospects probably won't in this draft. 3 - 69, Arrelious Benn, WR - Had a 1,000 year as a sophmore and got hurt his junior year, for a couple of games, and didn't put up big numbers so he could slide into the top of the third round. He has an ability we need in a WR; to adjust to a poorly thrown ball. 4 - 104, Kyle Calloway, RT - He or Ciron Black could very well be here. 5 - 141, Clay Harbor, TE - CBS has him rated as a 4th rounder, but he played at Missouri State so he could go undrafted. I've said before that I think this kid is the real deal and I wouldn't want to miss out on him. 5 - 147, Eric Olsen, C - Weis loves him and since they wouldn't let him have Clausen... 5 - 152, Freddie Barnes, WR - Hands of gold. 6 - 179, Myron Rolle, SS - Yeah I don't think he'll be available either, but some sites have him falling this far, so if he did, I'd be all over it. Last edited by Ralphy Boy; 02-18-2010 at 12:20 AM..
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	There's a better chance Benn will go in the 1st round than the one of him falling to the 3rd. And the offseason process is going to make Pierre Paul a high riser, I fully expect him to be a top 15 pick at worst.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	Oh for the love of God. Jason Pierre Paul is going to go in the top 15, and Benn might I stress might make it to the Chiefs first 2nd round pick, the 3rd is laughable.
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02-17-2010, 10:29 PM	#6
Ralphy Boy MVP Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	2010 depth chart Offense: QB - Cassel, Croyle, Gutierrez RB - Charles, Smith FB - Cox, Castille WR - Bowe, Barnes, Long WR - Chambers, Benn TE - Watson, Pope, Harbor LT - Albert, Richardson LG - Waters, Alleman C - Olsen, Smith RG - Smith, Alleman RT - Calloway, O'Callaghan Defense: LE - Jackson, Gilberry NT - Thomas, Edwards - lots of shared PT while Thomas gets up to speed RE - Dorsey, Magee LOLB - Pierre-Paul, Studebaker LILB - Johnson, Williams RILB - Dansby, Mays, Belcher ROLB - Hali, Walters LCB - Flowers, Richardson, Daniels RCB - Carr, Washington, Leggett SS - Brown, Rolle FS - Berry, Page K - Succop P - Colquitt
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02-17-2010, 11:44 PM	#15
Ralphy Boy MVP Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	There are always players who get first round publicity and still fall farther than some expect. In Arizona, they have a bunch of them: Anquan Boldin - slow 40 time dropped him from a 1st rounder to the 54th pick Early Doucet - was projected to be a late first rounder and ended up getting picked in the 3rd Calais Campbell - Was a 6'8" freak coming out of Miami but had a poor combine and pro day and slipped to #50 Karlos Dansby - Was projected to go in the late 1st but slipped to the #33 pick Darnell Dockett - Also projected as a 1st rounder before going at pick #64 There's always players that fall below where they were projected or rated: Vince Wilfork, Big Ben...Maclin fell last year thanks to Oakland's screw up, Maualuga was considered a steal in the 2nd by more than a few thanks to a bad combine, Everette Brown dropped last year, Connor Barwin was considered a fringe 1st by a lot, Michael Johnson dropped to the third.
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