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Old 02-14-2010, 09:14 AM  
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Sources: Cavaliers close to deal for Stoudemire

Found this, this morning for those interested. I'd have to think that if the Cavs got Stoudemire it for sure makes them the favorites to win the Eastern Conference.

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Updated: February 14, 2010, 2:57 AM ET
Sources: Hickson, Ilgauskas to Suns

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The Cleveland Cavaliers and Phoenix Suns are closing in on a deal that would send All-Star forward Amare Stoudemire to Cleveland, according to sources with knowledge of the negotiations.

Stoudemire

The Cavaliers would send Zydrunas Ilgauskas and J.J. Hickson to Phoenix in exchange for Stoudemire, one of the league's most dominant big man.

While Cleveland remains in talks with several other teams, the club, from management down to the players, has settled on Stoudemire as its first choice.

The ball is in Phoenix's court. The Suns are mulling whether the financial relief provided by Ilgauskas's $12 million contract and the young and talented Hickson are enough for them to part with Stoudemire.

Cleveland believes the addition of Stoudemire would all but seal LeBron James' re-signing with the team when he becomes a free agent this summer. The Cavaliers are also prepared to sign Stoudemire, who has one year and $17 million remaining on his contract, to a long-term contract extension once the season ends.

The Suns will likely waive Ilgauskas, which would allow him to be re-signed by Cleveland after 30 days.

Cleveland is also talking with Washington about acquiring Antawn Jamison, as well as Indiana about Troy Murphy. Meanwhile, Golden State is trying to entice the Cavs into taking Corey Maggette for Ilgauskas.
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Old 02-18-2010, 06:37 AM   #61
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Dallas can't offer him any more than Cleveland can, and Cleveland is a significantly better team.
Dallas probably can't offer him any more of a role either since they acquired Heywood. Z would probably get more, if not the same, time spelling Shaq than he would in the Haywood/Dampier mix.
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Old 02-18-2010, 06:48 AM   #62
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Dallas probably can't offer him any more of a role either since they acquired Heywood. Z would probably get more, if not the same, time spelling Shaq than he would in the Haywood/Dampier mix.
Not to mention that Cleveland is a stone cold #1 seed and Dallas could go anywhere from #3-#7 based upon losing 2 games in the standings.
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Old 02-18-2010, 07:07 AM   #63
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Not to mention that Cleveland is a stone cold #1 seed and Dallas could go anywhere from #3-#7 based upon losing 2 games in the standings.
Agreed. The West is a shitfest of capable teams outside LA and maybe Denver.

Could be an interesting trade deadline if Amare goes to Miami. Also looking like the Rockets got Kevin Martin but at a somewhat stiff price of Landry.
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:03 AM   #64
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:11 AM   #65
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Is T-Mac going to the Knicks?
Sounds possible. They really want him for cap space.
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Good deal, but Jamison is a horrible defensive player, probably even worse than Amare on that side of the floor. That's going to be the biggest problem integrating him, he isn't capable of guarding any decent Sf or PF, which will be a problem against someone like LA. Teams have been gameplanning against his weaknesses on defense for years in Washington.

It's not surprising how little Washington got for him. Jamison's age and bad contract killed any value he had.

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Old 02-18-2010, 12:38 PM   #67
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lol once again, Cleveland fails to make it sexy for LeBron to stay in Cleveland. Their only hope was to acquire Stoudemire. It sucks, but the Lakers will win it again.

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Old 02-18-2010, 12:48 PM   #68
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Getting Landry was a nice pickup for the Kings. K Marts days were numbered in Sactown.
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Good deal, but Jamison is a horrible defensive player, probably even worse than Amare on that side of the floor. That's going to be the biggest problem integrating him, he isn't capable of guarding any decent Sf or PF, which will be a problem against someone like LA. Teams have been gameplanning against his weaknesses on defense for years in Washington.

It's not surprising how little Washington got for him. Jamison's age and bad contract killed any value he had.
He's not a good defensive player, but he's a much more capable rebounder in the flow of the game than Stoudemire. Furthermore, given that you can play him at 3, it allows you far more flexibility than Amare, and he makes them a better defensive matchup against Orlando, since Lewis has been extremely hesitant to drive this year, and Vince Carter treats contact like it's Semtex.

Furthermore, Amare just had a really good offensive game, scored 30. But he grabbed a paltry 8 rebounds and gave up 31-7 to Donte mother****ing Greene.

That's an abortion.
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New York got ****ing raped.

Houston offloads T-Mac, gets back the best player in the deal (Martin), gets two lottery picks (IMO) in 2011, 2012, and gets Jordan Hill, who could at least be a quality second line PF on a good team.

A+ for Morey.

Kings did OK. Landry is a really good player, Hughes will expire, and they have almost no money committed to anyone next year.
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The Knicks on July 1st will have 4 players under contract: Curry, Douglas, Gallinari and Chandler.

New York or not, I don't see why any Superstar would want to play with that garbage. And if they don't get Wade/Lebron, they just gave Houston two high lotto picks and Jordan Hill for nothing.
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He's not a good defensive player, but he's a much more capable rebounder in the flow of the game than Stoudemire. Furthermore, given that you can play him at 3, it allows you far more flexibility than Amare, and he makes them a better defensive matchup against Orlando, since Lewis has been extremely hesitant to drive this year, and Vince Carter treats contact like it's Semtex.

Furthermore, Amare just had a really good offensive game, scored 30. But he grabbed a paltry 8 rebounds and gave up 31-7 to Donte mother****ing Greene.

That's an abortion.
Pretty much. I've seen him play in person against my Bulls and he's a surprisingly weak defender, even more so in person. He's a good offensive player but he's inconsistent and weak. It's sad when you get manhandled on any possession against JOKEhem Noah lol.

I really hope we make a play for LeBron this offseason, at least Bosh. That's why we traded Salmons and his 5.8 million. We are 20 million under now.
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The best part about Jamison to Cleveland is it makes it unlikely that they'll get Bosh in the offseason. Wade + Bosh + Beasley in Miami =
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The best part about Jamison to Cleveland is it makes it unlikely that they'll get Bosh in the offseason. Wade + Bosh + Beasley in Miami =
The Cavs already lacked the cap room to sign a max free agent. The Varejao extension pretty much ended those hopes.
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Pretty much. I've seen him play in person against my Bulls and he's a surprisingly weak defender, even more so in person. He's a good offensive player but he's inconsistent and weak. It's sad when you get manhandled on any possession against JOKEhem Noah lol.

I really hope we make a play for LeBron this offseason, at least Bosh. That's why we traded Salmons and his 5.8 million. We are 20 million under now.
I say Lebron stays in Cleveland but D.Wade comes back home. That'd be awesome to have Rose & D.Wade both from Chicago.
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