McClain news - Page 2

salame · 02-27-2010, 03:04 AM

Alabama ILB Rolando McClain is reportedly not even in the top 32 on some teams' draft boards.
McClain's speed and agility testing will be key because it's believed he may not run better than 4.7 in the forty. 4-3 teams want middle linebackers to have sideline-to-sideline range. McClain may be billed strictly as a 3-4 inside 'backer if he doesn't excel in movement drills over the weekend.
Source: Move The Sticks on Twitter

interesting
p.s. sorry if repost

Mecca · 03-01-2010, 12:53 AM

I'll be stunned if he breaks 4.7 which is why I don't think the Chiefs will take him.

KCrockaholic · 03-01-2010, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Not surprised on that, I think he's a 2 down strong side backer in a 4-3 so yea not a first rounder to them.

Why do you say he fits a 4-3 better than 3-4?

KCrockaholic · 03-01-2010, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Weatherspoon is a better prospect.

I like McClain, but this is 100% correct, Mizzou homer or not, Weatherspoon is the ****in man!

Saccopoo · 03-01-2010, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Why do you say he fits a 4-3 better than 3-4?

He's saying that's what he'd play in a 4-3. He doesn't have the speed and penetration of a 4-3 ILB. (Darryl Washington, Pat Angerer from this draft class as examples.) And he'd be limited to the first two downs in a 4-3 as the SSOLB because he doesn't have superior cover skills of guys like Derrick Johnson and Aaron Curry when they came out of college.

KCrockaholic · 03-01-2010, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

He's saying that's what he'd play in a 4-3. He doesn't have the speed and penetration of a 4-3 ILB. (Darryl Washington, Pat Angerer from this draft class as examples.) And he'd be limited to the first two downs in a 4-3 as the SSOLB because he doesn't have superior cover skills of guys like Derrick Johnson and Aaron Curry when they came out of college.

Alright gotcha. My mind takes much longer to process information when I'm tired, if you can't tell

**BossChief** · 03-01-2010, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

So now your support comes with a caveat? That the only way you'll want him for the Chiefs now is if he runs a 4.5? Aaron Curry and Jerod Mayo didn't run a 4.5. (Both ran a 4.56 to be exact.) And they were both considered athletic freaks for their size. McClain is going to have to channel the ghosts of combines past and summon up Kawika Mitchell to run a 4.5 40, especially with his length and weight.

So, whose going to be in your sig on Tuesday?

Of course it has a caveat. In college, linebackers can excel and run a damn 4.8, that same linebacker gets killed in the NFL and 4.7 is pretty close to the cutoff for very good to just good. In college games, his straight line speed isnt used as much as it likely will in the NFL and while I dont expect Pat Willis speed, I do expect above average speed size ratio. The only sites I frequent often concerning the draft have him listed as a projected 40 of 4.5-4.55, how off do you guys think that truly is?

Guess we'll find out today huh?

I hope he exceeds expectations and gets his 4.55

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Keith Rivers ran 4.5

Generally speaking for a LB to worth a top 10 pick he needs to be a clean prospect.

can you explain "clean" for me and Im sure a few others that cant recall the term being used. I think you mean the player has to have a clean history with the law and have certain minimums that must be acheived in speed, strength, quickness and other catergories to be considered that high?

KCrockaholic · 03-01-2010, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

can you explain "clean" for me and Im sure a few others that cant recall the term being used. I think you mean the player has to have a clean history with the law and have certain minimums that must be acheived in speed, strength, quickness and other catergories to be considered that high?

I think this is what he means. That is what I kind of got from it.

Mecca · 03-01-2010, 01:17 AM

That's basically what it is.

**BossChief** · 03-01-2010, 01:22 AM

Heres a bombshell Im sure will go over well.

I would trade the pick right now, straight up, for Orakpo if I knew Berry and Clausen werent gonna be the picks for whatever reason.

Its gonna piss me off for quite some time that we arent gonna be looking for passrushers, he will be very very special.

Saccopoo · 03-01-2010, 01:25 AM

Like I said, if he runs a 4.7 or below at his length and weight, I'll be impressed. I expect a 4.75 to a 4.85 in reality. Frankly, I don't give a shit about the 40 anyway. I'm more interested in the agility drills, particularly for guys like the linebackers. They only guys who ever come close to ever going in a straight line on the football field are receivers and defensive backs. The 40 at the combine is very misleading anyway as it's easy to train for and it doesn't translate to the field in pads. (Perfect example recently is Brandon Flowers. If the guy runs two tenths of a second faster, he's a mid-first round pick. I mean, really? Two-tenths of a second? It's not shit, and doesn't take into account instinct, hip and foot speed, etc.)

Saccopoo · 03-01-2010, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Heres a bombshell Im sure will go over well.

I would trade the pick right now, straight up, for Orakpo if I knew Berry and Clausen werent gonna be the picks for whatever reason.

Its gonna piss me off for quite some time that we arent gonna be looking for passrushers, he will be very very special.

Holy shit!!!

Did you hear that Mecca?!

Time to get out your:

Mecca · 03-01-2010, 01:31 AM

You should probably look at my new mock I did.

Titty Meat · 03-01-2010, 01:43 AM

lol McClain is this years Curry and people are still trying to defend drafting him.

Saccopoo · 03-01-2010, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You should probably look at my new mock I did.

I did. I saw you came around on

for the Raiders. I haven't checked out your edits since then though. I'll go peruse your picks right now.

Saccopoo · 03-01-2010, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

lol McClain is this years Curry and people are still trying to defend drafting him.

He's nowhere near as athletic as Curry. He's a pure mike backer. Curry has the athleticism to play a lot of positions, though he's best suited for a SSOLB spot to take advantage of his ball and cover skills. Curry would waste a lot of his instincts and athleticism if he was to be inside at the MLB spot in a 3-4. Curry was a better version of Derrick Johnson.

McClain is this years Tyson Jackson. A safe, but unspectacular pick that will be a solid player who should have a chance to play in the league for a long time. He's a run plugger in a 3-4 and has enough athleticism and length to be a three down guy in a 3-4, but he's scheme limited IMO.

02-27-2010, 03:04 AM
salame Under the Sofa Join Date: Apr 2009 Casino cash: $10010607	McClain news Alabama ILB Rolando McClain is reportedly not even in the top 32 on some teams' draft boards. McClain's speed and agility testing will be key because it's believed he may not run better than 4.7 in the forty. 4-3 teams want middle linebackers to have sideline-to-sideline range. McClain may be billed strictly as a 3-4 inside 'backer if he doesn't excel in movement drills over the weekend. Source: Move The Sticks on Twitter interesting p.s. sorry if repost
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03-01-2010, 12:53 AM	#16
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	I'll be stunned if he breaks 4.7 which is why I don't think the Chiefs will take him.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	That's basically what it is.
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03-01-2010, 01:22 AM	#24
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1755912	Heres a bombshell Im sure will go over well. I would trade the pick right now, straight up, for Orakpo if I knew Berry and Clausen werent gonna be the picks for whatever reason. Its gonna piss me off for quite some time that we arent gonna be looking for passrushers, he will be very very special. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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03-01-2010, 01:25 AM	#25
Saccopoo Kindness in words... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Zion Casino cash: $10025483	Like I said, if he runs a 4.7 or below at his length and weight, I'll be impressed. I expect a 4.75 to a 4.85 in reality. Frankly, I don't give a shit about the 40 anyway. I'm more interested in the agility drills, particularly for guys like the linebackers. They only guys who ever come close to ever going in a straight line on the football field are receivers and defensive backs. The 40 at the combine is very misleading anyway as it's easy to train for and it doesn't translate to the field in pads. (Perfect example recently is Brandon Flowers. If the guy runs two tenths of a second faster, he's a mid-first round pick. I mean, really? Two-tenths of a second? It's not shit, and doesn't take into account instinct, hip and foot speed, etc.)
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03-01-2010, 01:31 AM	#27
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Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1192442	lol McClain is this years Curry and people are still trying to defend drafting him.
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