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Old 03-02-2010, 01:56 PM  
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Combine Winners and Losers

These are my opinions, but obviously borrowed from the research of others

Winners:

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Russell Okung. Showed very good athleticism, ideal size, and good strength. Solidified himself as the consensus #1 tackle according to scouts (even if I think he's not).

Bruce Campbell. Absolute ****ing freak. Same size as Okung, even more athletic. Dominated the drills

Trent Williams. May end up being Jamaal Brown. Far more athletic than previously thought

Roger Saffold. Could be this year's Branden Albert--a G prospect who transitions to T. That said, with his frame, I think he's an ideal RT for a team that passes a lot. If I'm NO, I look at him as a replacement for Stinchcomb at the bottom of Round 2.


DL: Ndamukong Suh. Showed up, did everything, and did it well. Showed he wasn't afraid to compete. Separated himself from McCoy, as he was his equal in agility drills and speed, and showed that he also has as much explosion with more upper body strength.

Jason Pierre Paul. Lack of production is alarming, but his potential isn't. Mayock compared him to Jevon Kearse. His upside is probably Mario Williams.

Lemarr Houston. Beasted the drills. Looks like a great 3 technique prospect.

Everson Griffen. Tremendous measureables combined with solid production. With his speed, he could be a 4-3 RDE or a ROLB in a 3-4. Probably a mid-20s guy who a lot of teams are going to regret passing on. Atlanta needs to have him targeted

Linval Joseph. He's going to skyrocket. He can play NT in a 4-3, NT in a 3-4, or 5 technique. Big with long arms (34 1/2"). I wouldn't mind the Chiefs taking him with their 3rd rounder.

Torrell Troup. Did well in agility drills, ran well, and showed good strength. Long arms, can put on another 25 pounds and anchor a 3-4.


LB:

Sean Weatherspoon. GODMODE.

Darryl Washington. Ran really well and killed the drills. Probably limited to a 4-3 Will backer.

Jamar Chaney. Absolutely dominated the physical part of the combine. Dominated. He has the size to be a 3-4 Mike, but his speed will make him far more valuable to a 4-3 team. He's probably a mid 2nd round pick at worst right now. His athleticism is the definition of sideline to sideline.

DB:

Taylor Mays. Killed the 40 and showed enough agility in the drills to quell concerns about his hip fluidity.

Eric Berry. Performed beyond expectations. Measured bigger, and had an amazing vertical jump (43"). Showed good speed as well. He is Ed Reed.


QB:

None. Jarrett Brown showed speed and arm strength, but his accuracy was poor. Sam Bradford showed he could put on 25 pounds while using steroids.

WR:

Jacoby Ford. Moved himself up into the 3rd round with his 40 time alone

Golden Tate. Looks like an ideal slot receiver w/ his combination of quickness and speed.

Scott Long. Warriored the Workout, but he's never done anything on the field. Got buzz, though.


RB: Ryan Matthews. The #1 pure RB in this class w/o question.

Jahvid Best. Outran Spiller and showed really good agility in the cone drills. Surprising size @ 200 lbs. Could be Jamaal Charlesesque.

Ben Tate. Looks like a really good mid-round option


TE: Clay Harbor. Performed like he was created in a lab. Small school prospect with all the tools.

Jimmy Graham. Absolutely amazing combine and ungodly size. He's a matchup nightmare.


Losers:

QB: Cart McCoy. His shoulder injury, which would be healed w/in "days" then became "two weeks" and now it's been nearly two months and he still won't throw. He also measured 2 inches shorter than his listed height. He's a ****ing bum. Well, bums have heart...

Dan LeFevour. Absolutely idiotic decision not to throw. Killed himself in the eyes of scouts.


WR: Brandon Lafell. Poor time combined with a blah season. He's probably a late 2nd at best now. Really small hands for a WR (8 3/4")

Dez Bryant. Reportedly bombed the interviews. Came off as irresponsible, and didn't run to protect his inflated stock.

Mike Williams. Awful results, even worse interviews. May not be drafted

RB: Jonathan Dwyer. Looked doughy and did not perform well. Combined with the weird system he came from, he's looking like the 3rd rounder I said he was.

TE: Rob Gronkowski. Came off as a pussy shit bitch by declaring himself 100% but not participating in anything when he hasn't played in a year.


OL: Anthony Davis. Poor physical measureables for a guy with a host of other concerns is not good.

Ciron Black. May not be draftable after his abortion of a performance.


DE: Greg Hardy. No one hurt his stock more this season than Hardy. He'll be off the boards of several teams completely and he shows a complete lack of passion for the game. He also can't stop gorging his fat ass.

George Selvie. An awful performance capping off two shit awful years at USF. He's a late round player now.

Carlos Dunlap. Awful interviews combined with huge character concerns and a lack of production make him Michael Johnson part 2.

DT: None. McCoy, who didn't have a great combine, still did well enough, but may have solidified himself as the #2 rather than putting himself in the argument with Suh

LB: Brandon Spikes. Wouldn't run but did all the other drills, on which he completely embarrassed himself. Lacks explosion (29" vertical is pathetic) and speed (wouldn't run). He's strictly a 2 down player and probably a 3rd rounder at best. Could go as late as the fifth.

Micah Johnson. You could time him with a sundial. May end up being this year's Danell Ellerbe, though. He and Spikes could both be role players, but won't ever be anything more.

Rolando McClain. Invented an injury to prevent from exposing himself, just like Bryant.

DB. Myron Rolle. Great story, but he's not an NFL player. Too slow, too stiff.

Joe Haden. Ran in the Malcolm Jenkins territory without the size. He's probably a 12-15 pick right now
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Old 03-02-2010, 05:48 PM   #16
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Eric Berry. Performed beyond expectations. Measured bigger, and had an amazing vertical jump (43"). Showed good speed as well. He is Ed Reed.

Sold. I was leaning towards Berry anyway.... now it's a no brainer.
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Old 03-02-2010, 05:51 PM   #17
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There was some small school QB, they called him a poor man's Flacco.

I'm not a big Flacco fan, but this QB's arm was very impressive.

Can someone help me out with the name?
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Old 03-02-2010, 05:51 PM   #18
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So you're saying Oakland will draft Dez Bryant.
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Old 03-02-2010, 05:54 PM   #19
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Bryant is not in the Oakland frame of WR's, Oakland tends to take guys with huge upside, right now I'm going with JPP as that pick.
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Old 03-02-2010, 05:55 PM   #20
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So you're saying Oakland will draft Dez Bryant.
chOakland drafts based on 40 time. Dez didn't run.
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Old 03-02-2010, 06:31 PM   #21
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There was some small school QB, they called him a poor man's Flacco.

I'm not a big Flacco fan, but this QB's arm was very impressive.

Can someone help me out with the name?
Skelton?
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Old 03-02-2010, 06:39 PM   #22
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Some Division II tidbits: Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale -- was in the top 10 of every OL test and drill. Screw Bruce Campbell, Veldheer turned in the Godmode performance by an OL. Nailed the interviews too, I hear. He's getting paid.

Preston Parker, WR, North Alabama -- ran a slower than expected 40 time. He likely took himself out of the draft altogether considering his character concerns (though his 20 yard shuttle and bench reps were top 10 amongst all WR).

Joique Bell, RB, Wayne State -- ran a slower than expected 40 time. But the drills that show quickness and explosiveness, 20 yard shuttle, the 3-cone, the standing broad, the vertical, he placed top 10, even top 5, in. He didn't hurt himself though a better 40 time at his pro day will go a long way.

Tony Washington, OT, Abeliene Christian -- performed admirably in the drills, making top 10 at OL in many of them. He helped his stock for sure. My guess, based on what I know about the player, is that he bombed interviews though.

Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB, Indiana (PA) -- ran a 4.47 official time in the 40 coming off of injury, 3rd amongst all CB. He's almost ensured of being a 2nd day (third round) pick in my book.
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Parker got kicked out of FSU...that makes him a total moron.
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Old 03-02-2010, 06:43 PM   #24
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Bryant is not in the Oakland frame of WR's, Oakland tends to take guys with huge upside, right now I'm going with JPP as that pick.
JPP is a typical Oakland pick. He is going to them in my mock... Which I will post sometime tomorrow BTW
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I'm not a big Flacco fan, but this QB's arm was very impressive.

Can someone help me out with the name?
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Skelton?
I think he means Tony Pike? He is just like a poor mans Flacco.
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I do think Pierre Paul has ridiculous upside and is worthy of being a top 10 pick so that wouldn't even be a reach.
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I do think Pierre Paul has ridiculous upside and is worthy of being a top 10 pick so that wouldn't even be a reach.
I'm not a big fan of him, I would take Kindle before him if that says anything.
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I think he means Tony Pike? He is just like a poor mans Flacco.
I wouldn't really consider Cincy to be a small school
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I'm not a big fan of him, I would take Kindle before him if that says anything.
If you're going 3-4 sure, for a 4-3 team you're better off with JPP, he has a frame to carry 300lbs and still have his speed.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:17 PM   #30
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Skelton?
Sorr. I missed this earlier.
I think his name was Skelton.
Had good size, and his ball on outs was accurate and well thrown. I really liked how he threw.
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