Denver article with Bruce Campbell to Chiefs. - Page 3

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Mr. Laz · 03-03-2010, 05:28 PM

seems to me that campbell is pretty much a workout warrior who doesn't have the film to backup his current skyrocketing draft position.

RiversRunRed · 03-03-2010, 10:36 PM

idk, i value milkman's opinion on this one. If there were a surefire stud LT in this draft, id say go ahead and take him to push Albert over. I just dont think that guy is in this draft, and id say bruce campbell at least has the potential to be a stud LT.

I think were better off drafting a guard later on though.

BillSelfsTrophycase · 03-03-2010, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

All I'm getting is a red X in a box.

Saccopoo · 03-04-2010, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RiversRunRed

idk, i value milkman's opinion on this one. If there were a surefire stud LT in this draft, id say go ahead and take him to push Albert over. I just dont think that guy is in this draft, and id say bruce campbell at least has the potential to be a stud LT.

I think were better off drafting a guard later on though.

Evil Dead wasn't even the most athletic guy at the combine in his position group. Veldheer dominated the drills by a large margin.

Milk is jerking it to the 40 times alone, and we all know how important those 40 yard dash times are to an offensive lineman.

**BossChief** · 03-04-2010, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Evil Dead wasn't even the most athletic guy at the combine in his position group. Veldheer dominated the drills by a large margin.

Milk is jerking it to the 40 times alone, and we all know how important those 40 yard dash times are to an offensive lineman.

If you would run a search on milkmans posts concerning Albert throughout the year, you wouldnt seem like such a dumb**** on the subject. He predicted his struggles and about to the exact game ahead of time of when he would start to become acclimated to the new technique for the new scheme as well as his adjustment to playing with less weight and more technique.

I am a member on a few boards and I trust his opinion on line play more than any poster from any other board. The guy knows what he is talking about and is beyond question concerning line play imo.

You couldn't shine his shoes, son.

Saccopoo · 03-04-2010, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

If you would run a search on milkmans posts concerning Albert throughout the year, you wouldnt seem like such a dumb**** on the subject. He predicted his struggles and about to the exact game ahead of time of when he would start to become acclimated to the new technique for the new scheme as well as his adjustment to playing with less weight and more technique.

I am a member on a few boards and I trust his opinion on line play more than any poster from any other board. The guy knows what he is talking about and is beyond question concerning line play imo.

You couldn't shine his shoes, son.

Okay, "Dad." Let me know how the Chiefs, the guys that actually get paid to disseminate and evaluate such information, feel about the position when training camp opens up.

**BossChief** · 03-04-2010, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Okay, "Dad." Let me know how the Chiefs, the guys that actually get paid to disseminate and evaluate such information, feel about the position when training camp opens up.

they started Mike ****ing Goff for a bunch of games, so not much would surprise me.

To be honest, I think Albert plays lights out ball next year.

Saccopoo · 03-04-2010, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

they started Mike ****ing Goff for a bunch of games, so not much would surprise me.

To be honest, I think Albert plays lights out ball next year.

You've got to call the position now though.

LT? LG? RG? RT?

I think he kicks ass next year as well...

**BossChief** · 03-04-2010, 05:42 AM

I think that Albert plays lights out at LT next year.

LTs generally struggle in their second year. Clady didnt give up a sack as a rookie but gave up 8 this year.

It happens.

Albert only gave up 4 as a rookie and 9 this year iirc, only one more than Clady.

If you were a Broncos fan, you would be calling to replace him too huh?

Who here understands development and adjustment periods? I think that with all the changes Albert did quite well down the stretch.

**Tribal Warfare** · 03-04-2010, 07:39 AM

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I think that with all the changes Albert did quite well down the stretch.

I believe it's partly due to Haley wising up, and allowing Albert to play at his natural playing weight of 316 instead of 305.

Chiefnj2 · 03-04-2010, 09:20 AM

Haley was a complete and utter moron for going from 6 protection packages (Gailey) to 24+ a week before the season started. There is a good reason why everyone looked so confused the first 12 games. Waters, who has always been the utmost professional and who has always played at a very high level even looked lost out there.

Here's the way I see it. Albert played very well his rookie year. He didn't have much collegiate experience at LT and missed most of camp with injuries. Despite that he came out and played much better than one could have expected. Did he benefit from the pistol formation and did that formation hide some of his flaws, most likely, but he still played well.

I don't really think you can judge the OL, QB and running game last year. It was a mess in terms of timing, scheme, playcalling, talent and personnel. I will fault the receivers and TE's for dropping so many passes and TE's for poor blocking. In my eyes Albert and Cassel get a pass for last year. And, if you aren't willing to give either a pass, then you take the potential franchise QB over the potential franchise LT in the draft.

The debate shouldn't be Berry v. Okung/Bulaga/Williams, but Berry v. Bradford/Clausen.

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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1745912	I think that Albert plays lights out at LT next year. LTs generally struggle in their second year. Clady didnt give up a sack as a rookie but gave up 8 this year. It happens. Albert only gave up 4 as a rookie and 9 this year iirc, only one more than Clady. If you were a Broncos fan, you would be calling to replace him too huh? Who here understands development and adjustment periods? I think that with all the changes Albert did quite well down the stretch. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	Haley was a complete and utter moron for going from 6 protection packages (Gailey) to 24+ a week before the season started. There is a good reason why everyone looked so confused the first 12 games. Waters, who has always been the utmost professional and who has always played at a very high level even looked lost out there. Here's the way I see it. Albert played very well his rookie year. He didn't have much collegiate experience at LT and missed most of camp with injuries. Despite that he came out and played much better than one could have expected. Did he benefit from the pistol formation and did that formation hide some of his flaws, most likely, but he still played well. I don't really think you can judge the OL, QB and running game last year. It was a mess in terms of timing, scheme, playcalling, talent and personnel. I will fault the receivers and TE's for dropping so many passes and TE's for poor blocking. In my eyes Albert and Cassel get a pass for last year. And, if you aren't willing to give either a pass, then you take the potential franchise QB over the potential franchise LT in the draft. The debate shouldn't be Berry v. Okung/Bulaga/Williams, but Berry v. Bradford/Clausen. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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