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Old 03-07-2010, 06:41 PM   #1
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Teams like Cleveland are successfully scouring the market and getting second tier FAs to fill non-essential, but still important, roles, and we are debating which over 30 year old RB to sign.
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Old 03-07-2010, 06:43 PM   #2
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Teams like Cleveland are successfully scouring the market and getting second tier FAs to fill non-essential, but still important, roles, and we are debating which over 30 year old RB to sign.
You're going to use Cleveland as a model for success in the league?
Really?
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Old 03-07-2010, 06:45 PM   #3
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You're going to use Cleveland as a model for success in the league?
Really?
Did I say they were a model for absolute success, you dumb mother****er? No.

I did, however, say that they were doing a good job maximizing value while not paying out the ass.
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Old 03-07-2010, 06:50 PM   #4
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Did I say they were a model for absolute success, you dumb mother****er? No.
Don't bitch up now...
You used Cleveland as a model for success.
Pashos and Fujita don't exactly make for the best off-season ever.

We could draft two players who'll be cheaper alternatives and longer-term solutions come April.
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Old 03-07-2010, 06:51 PM   #5
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Don't bitch up now...
You used Cleveland as a model for success.
Pashos and Fujita don't exactly make for the best off-season ever.

We could draft two players who'll be cheaper alternatives and longer-term solutions come April.
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Old 03-07-2010, 06:53 PM   #6
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Don't bitch up now...
You used Cleveland as a model for success.
Pashos and Fujita don't exactly make for the best off-season ever.

We could draft two players who'll be cheaper alternatives and longer-term solutions come April.
JFC, we can't fill every hole on this roster in the draft.
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Old 03-07-2010, 06:55 PM   #7
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Its going to take FAs AND drafting to round out this team. We can sign the leftover scraps in FA or get some decent ones, I would prefer to sign some decent ones.
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Old 03-07-2010, 07:00 PM   #8
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Its going to take FAs AND drafting to round out this team. We can sign the leftover scraps in FA or get some decent ones, I would prefer to sign some decent ones.
I'm fine with that...just not at that position.
Unless there's a more attractive option available than Fujita.
He's a good solid LB, but come on...
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JFC, we can't fill every hole on this roster in the draft.
We can't get two LB's in the April draft?
Really?

You really believe that signing Fujita, who's career will be grinding to a halt in the next two years, is more prudent than drafting someone who'll be peaking then?
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We can't get two LB's in the April draft?
Really?

You really believe that signing Fujita, who's career will be grinding to a halt in the next two years, is more prudent than drafting someone who'll be peaking then?
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We can't get two LB's in the April draft?
Really?

You really believe that signing Fujita, who's career will be grinding to a halt in the next two years, is more prudent than drafting someone who'll be peaking then?
You don't even have a ****ing clue what position that Fujita would play in this scheme, and you actually think you have a clue about what to do in this draft?

We could fill two LB positions in the draft, but we could also sign a guy to fill a lower priority ILB position in free agancy for a year or two and use the draft to fill other glaring holes.
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Don't bitch up now...
You used Cleveland as a model for success.
Pashos and Fujita don't exactly make for the best off-season ever.

We could draft two players who'll be cheaper alternatives and longer-term solutions come April.
Did I say that they were having the best offseason ever?

Point me to where I said this.

Also, point me to where I've said that second tier FA's can't fill non-essential positions on your team, especially when cost efficient.

If not, then shut the **** up.
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Did I say that they were having the best offseason ever?

Point me to where I said this.

Also, point me to where I've said that second tier FA's can't fill non-essential positions on your team, especially when cost efficient.

If not, then shut the **** up.
One of us used the Cleveland Browns as a model for how to appropriately address Free Agency. The other one pointed out the fact that those particular transactions aren't likely to have stellar material results. And went on to suggest that the Draft might present better alternatives for a team in this position (still not quite ready to contend).

And please...for the love of all that is holy...
Please stop with the Internet tough guy shit.
Let's just have a conversation like civil adults shall we?
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One of us used the Cleveland Browns as a model for how to appropriately address Free Agency. The other one pointed out the fact that those particular transactions aren't likely to have stellar material results. And went on to suggest that the Draft might present better alternatives for a team in this position (still not quite ready to contend).

And please...for the love of all that is holy...
Please stop with the Internet tough guy shit.
Let's just have a conversation like civil adults shall we?

Again, with the absolutist dipshit tripe.

Did I say these transactions were the fulcrum by which their Super Bowl success will tip?

No.

When have I ever marginalized the importance of the draft? Ever?

At the same time, if you have holes at places like ted backer, right tackle, or backup RB, I'm in no way bothered with addressing much more important positions in the draft.

Again, you are forced to construct a strawman by assuming that this rebuild isn't a multi-year effort.

I don't give a **** if we don't draft a RT or Ted backer this year. I'd much rather invest valuable picks at impact positions. We have 10 picks and about 20 holes.

Not everything has to be fixed now, but if you can find guys like Pashos or Fujita to fill a hole for two years who will 1) play at a decent level and are 2) cheap, then you are working FA correctly.

Put please, continue inventing bullshit to sustain your argument.
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Did I say they were a model for absolute success, you dumb mother****er? No.

I did, however, say that they were doing a good job maximizing value while not paying out the ass.
Jeez dude...

Simmer down a bit. You need an e-hug or something?
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