Chiefs Would you be opposed to?.... - Page 7

**The Bad Guy** · 03-07-2010, 12:30 PM

Sending the Ravens a 2nd round pick (the first one) for Jared Gaither?

Only 23 years old. Mountain of a man. Solid experience. They apparently want to move Michael Oher to LT.

I would do it with one condition, that Albert has to play LG. I do not want Albert at RT.

Waters could try to move to RG, if not, cut him.

Thoughts?

Hammock Parties · 03-07-2010, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Dumbass

You're a dumbass for assuming Albert would automatically be successful at guard.

He's not the same player he was in college. His body has changed. He hasn't played left guard in TWO YEARS and hasn't learned SHIT about how to do it at the NFL level.

It would likely be another transition and a tough year for him.

Frankie · 03-07-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I've already talked about this, but I'll go over it again just for you.

Waters struggled with handling the Center/QB exchange earlier in his career when the attempt was made to play him at center, and his physical skills are diminishing fairly rapidly already.
Moving him to the more physicalling demanding center position would further escalate those diminishing physical skills.

Nevertheless, the word is that the Chiefs are thinking about it.

Frankie · 03-07-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

I know Gaither is good, but is he really that much better than Albert?

As a LT, yes, IMO.

Marcellus · 03-07-2010, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Nevertheless, the word is that the Chiefs are thinking about it.

Wow. According to everybody here they are perfectly happy with Niswanger.

Frankie · 03-07-2010, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Wow. According to everybody here they are perfectly happy with Niswanger.

I've heard what I've heard. And from two different sources. I think it's only an experiment.

milkman · 03-07-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

I know Gaither is good, but is he really that much better than Albert?

Question of semantics.

He is much further along in his development at LT than Albert because he's been playing and working at the position for a hell of a lot longer.

However, Albert is a naturally gifted athlete with really fluid and quick feet who needs time to learn the nuances of teh position.

Giving up a second round pick for Gaither would have been a great investment because he's a guy with the size and strength to excel at RT, but also is a damn good LT who could move over should Albert not develop.

His primary issue, it seems, is injury concerns.

**Buehler445** · 03-07-2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

And once again, I ask why?

If he's struggling to stay at the top of his game physically at the guard position, then trying him at center, a more physically demanding position, is a wasted experiment.

It's like pouring water into a cullender to see if it will hold that water.

I agree. However, I would not be opposed to moving Niswanger to RG, he did a little bit of that under Herm and played OK. I think it's fairly obvious he isn't strong enough to be a center. He probably isn't good enough at Guard either, but as thin as we are, if he's better, it's worth a shot, one more position we don't have to draft.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

The fact that they traded back up to take the shot on Flacco is very impressive.

I thought they were crazy. I ate copious amounts of crow.

**The Bad Guy** · 03-07-2010, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Nevertheless, the word is that the Chiefs are thinking about it.

I don't know what word you heard, but it's not even close to the truth.

Mr. Laz · 03-07-2010, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

anything but a 1st or 2nd round draft pick

2nd round is primo shite this year

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Mecca · 03-07-2010, 09:24 PM

I'd take him for anything that isn't the top 5 pick, he's superior to all of the OT's in the draft and is roughly the same age.

milkman · 03-07-2010, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I don't know what word you heard, but it's not even close to the truth.

Are you questioning the voices in his head?

RedThat · 03-07-2010, 10:23 PM

Nope wouldn't do it sorry.

I think there is going to be some good talent available in the 2nd round, and the Chiefs could use both 2nd rounders at other areas of need that are easily more important right now i.e., defense.

Too much value there in the 2nd, I don't think it's worth it to give up one of our 2nd rounders.

The Chiefs could draft a guard in the 3rd or 4th round.

Mecca · 03-07-2010, 10:25 PM

What in the **** does a guard have to do with Gaither?

aturnis · 03-07-2010, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I really like the way the ravens do things.

SB winning coach.
You haven't produced a winner in a couple of years, **** it you're fired.

Draft a bust at QB.
****, let's take another shot.

Draft a damn good LT who has some injury concerns.
**** it, let's draft another and move the first one for a first round pick.

No disrespect, but you and Hamas are full of shit. You say you would love this, but it just isn't true. All offseason you have been ranting and raving about how we already have a LT and don't need to draft one. You could CRUCIFY Pioli if he ever made that kind of move.

Now, before you go and argue that this is different, and we don't need a LT at the #5 spot, most of you have scoffed at the idea of taking one early in the second. Come on now, you guys couldn't be happy no matter what happened.

Mecca · 03-07-2010, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

No disrespect, but you and Hamas are full of shit. You say you would love this, but it just isn't true. All offseason you have been ranting and raving about how we already have a LT and don't need to draft one. You could CRUCIFY Pioli if he ever made that kind of move.

Now, before you go and argue that this is different, and we don't need a LT at the #5 spot, most of you have scoffed at the idea of taking one early in the second. Come on now, you guys couldn't be happy no matter what happened.

2nd round picks are not equal to 1st round picks, it's acceptable to use a 2nd round pick on a RT.

Reading comprehension, try it sometime.

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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-742950	I'd take him for anything that isn't the top 5 pick, he's superior to all of the OT's in the draft and is roughly the same age.
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RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Nope wouldn't do it sorry. I think there is going to be some good talent available in the 2nd round, and the Chiefs could use both 2nd rounders at other areas of need that are easily more important right now i.e., defense. Too much value there in the 2nd, I don't think it's worth it to give up one of our 2nd rounders. The Chiefs could draft a guard in the 3rd or 4th round.
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03-07-2010, 10:25 PM	#103
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-742950	What in the **** does a guard have to do with Gaither?
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