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Old 03-16-2010, 03:41 PM   #1
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Sounds like speculation more than anything. I like the signing.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...ilter_teams=KC
Speculation? Dude, did you even READ what you linked us to?

The Chiefs needed a right guard after releasing an ineffective Mike Goff and losing Wade Smith to the Texans. Lilja is a major health risk after reportedly failing a physical with the Colts, but he's a solid addition at a position of need if his knees respond to an offseason of rest.
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:45 PM   #2
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Speculation? Dude, did you even READ what you linked us to?

The Chiefs needed a right guard after releasing an ineffective Mike Goff and losing Wade Smith to the Texans. Lilja is a major health risk after reportedly failing a physical with the Colts, but he's a solid addition at a position of need if his knees respond to an offseason of rest.
I haven't had the time to look, but how many games did Ryan Lilja miss in 2009?
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:47 PM   #3
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I haven't had the time to look, but how many games did Ryan Lilja miss in 2009?
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:46 PM   #4
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Speculation? Dude, did you even READ what you linked us to?

The Chiefs needed a right guard after releasing an ineffective Mike Goff and losing Wade Smith to the Texans. Lilja is a major health risk after reportedly failing a physical with the Colts, but he's a solid addition at a position of need if his knees respond to an offseason of rest.
Yes I read it. Maybe speculation was the wrong term, but it doesn't say that he for sure failed a physical. Nothing concrete. I am sure most NFL lineman have poor health or are always sore or have bad knees- most wear knee braces anyways.
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:49 PM   #5
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Yes I read it. Maybe speculation was the wrong term, but it doesn't say that he for sure failed a physical. Nothing concrete. I am sure most NFL lineman have poor health or are always sore or have bad knees- most wear knee braces anyways.
You're exaggerating.

It's been reported by more than one source that he failed a physical. NFL teams weren't exactly lining up to sign the guy.

I think it's 50/50 that he even makes it through Haley's training camp.
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:57 PM   #6
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You're exaggerating.

It's been reported by more than one source that he failed a physical. NFL teams weren't exactly lining up to sign the guy.

I think it's 50/50 that he even makes it through Haley's training camp.
I'm exaggerating?

50/50 to make the team? Come on.
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:01 PM   #7
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I'm exaggerating?

50/50 to make the team? Come on.
Come on, what?

He's having knee issues. The only team in the league to sign him was 4-12 last year and he's a two-time Super Bowl starter. As we all know, Haley runs very intense training camps. Guys last year sat on exercise bikes when they weren't able to participate. He has a mandatory conditioning drill, in which a few guys failed last year.

There's no guarantee he'll make it out of camp.
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:15 PM   #8
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Come on, what?

He's having knee issues. The only team in the league to sign him was 4-12 last year and he's a two-time Super Bowl starter. As we all know, Haley runs very intense training camps. Guys last year sat on exercise bikes when they weren't able to participate. He has a mandatory conditioning drill, in which a few guys failed last year.

There's no guarantee he'll make it out of camp.

Just because a player signs with KC doesn't mean we were his only option.

You think Thomas Jones signed here because we were the only team that wanted him?
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:18 PM   #9
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Just because a player signs with KC doesn't mean we were his only option.

You think Thomas Jones signed here because we were the only team that wanted him?
The Jets didn't want him back, even when given the opportunity to match the Chiefs final offer.

And that's just one example. Feel free to tell us where else he visited or who else made him a contract offer.
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:19 PM   #10
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Just because a player signs with KC doesn't mean we were his only option.
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You think Thomas Jones signed here because we were the only team that wanted him?
I think the Chiefs were the only team to offer him the kind of pay he wanted. He's been a 1,000 yards+ running back for years. Why would he agree to become a part time player, if not for the money?

If he wanted to win, he would have re-signed with the Jets at a much lower rate, or gone to an equally competitive team.
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:48 PM   #11
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Speculation? Dude, did you even READ what you linked us to?

The Chiefs needed a right guard after releasing an ineffective Mike Goff and losing Wade Smith to the Texans. Lilja is a major health risk after reportedly failing a physical with the Colts, but he's a solid addition at a position of need if his knees respond to an offseason of rest.
Reportedly?
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Craig Domann, Lilja’s agent, said the release was not necessarily financially-driven. The team paid Lilja a $1.7 million roster bonus he was due, then terminated his contract. Lilja was due to earn a base salary of $3.055 million in 2010.

"They said they want to go bigger, and they let him go,’’ Domann said. "Ryan was disappointed, but I know he’ll land on his feet.’’
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:50 PM   #12
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Reportedly?
Uh, yeah.

But I'm sure you always trust the word of an agent, right?
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:53 PM   #13
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Uh, yeah.

But I'm sure you always trust the word of an agent, right?
Always

In this case it appears to be the truth considering they have signed 2 guards that are well over 300lbs.
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:50 PM   #14
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Reportedly?
Wait you expect an agent to admit his client has bad knees?
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