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Farzin · 03-16-2010, 11:28 AM

THE DEAL IS DONE

Marcellus · 03-16-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Come on, what?

He's having knee issues. The only team in the league to sign him was 4-12 last year and he's a two-time Super Bowl starter. As we all know, Haley runs very intense training camps. Guys last year sat on exercise bikes when they weren't able to participate. He has a mandatory conditioning drill, in which a few guys failed last year.

There's no guarantee he'll make it out of camp.

Just because a player signs with KC doesn't mean we were his only option.

You think Thomas Jones signed here because we were the only team that wanted him?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-16-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Just because a player signs with KC doesn't mean we were his only option.

You think Thomas Jones signed here because we were the only team that wanted him?

The Jets didn't want him back, even when given the opportunity to match the Chiefs final offer.

And that's just one example. Feel free to tell us where else he visited or who else made him a contract offer.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-16-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Just because a player signs with KC doesn't mean we were his only option.

The proof is in the pudding

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

You think Thomas Jones signed here because we were the only team that wanted him?

I think the Chiefs were the only team to offer him the kind of pay he wanted. He's been a 1,000 yards+ running back for years. Why would he agree to become a part time player, if not for the money?

If he wanted to win, he would have re-signed with the Jets at a much lower rate, or gone to an equally competitive team.

**BossChief** · 03-16-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And poor enough to be released immediately thereafter

and for the same reason we released Weigman when we were gonna go with a bigger line and a power scheme. He made the probowl the next year zoneblocking.

There are reports that Seattle and the Texans were both in negotiations with Lilja as well, so we werent the only team bidding for his services...

Marcellus · 03-16-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The proof is in the pudding

I think the Chiefs were the only team to offer him the kind of pay he wanted. He's been a 1,000 yards+ running back for years. Why would he agree to become a part time player, if not for the money?

If he wanted to win, he would have re-signed with the Jets at a much lower rate, or gone to an equally competitive team.

Yea the Jets don't want a guy back and so his only option option out of 31 teams was to go to KC. Give it a rest. That isn't proof of shit. But hey it supports your seriously negative biased opinions.

Marcellus · 03-16-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

and for the same reason we released Weigman when we were gonna go with a bigger line and a power scheme. He made the probowl the next year zoneblocking.

There are reports that Seattle and the Texans were both in negotiations with Lilja as well, so we werent the only team bidding for his services...

Not according to Dane.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-16-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

and for the same reason we released Weigman when we were gonna go with a bigger line and a power scheme. He made the probowl the next year zoneblocking.

There are reports that Seattle and the Texans were both in negotiations with Lilja as well, so we werent the only team bidding for his services...

Weigmann will be 37 when the season starts.

Reports, eh? So, a two-time Pro Bowl guard that's only 28 years old is available, yet the only teams interested were a 4-12 team, a 5-11 team and the Texans?

Wow, how did his agent stand all that heat?

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-16-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Yea the Jets don't want a guy back and so his only option option out of 31 teams was to go to KC. Give it a rest. That isn't proof of shit. But hey it supports your seriously negative biased opinions.

Pretty much.

Why don't you go ahead and prove otherwise instead of acting like a jackass?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-16-2010, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Pretty much.

Why don't you go ahead and prove otherwise instead of acting like a jackass?

Because he can't.

RedThat · 03-16-2010, 04:32 PM

[QUOTE=DaneMcCloud;6608960]I think the Chiefs were the only team to offer him the kind of pay he wanted. He's been a 1,000 yards+ running back for years. Why would he agree to become a part time player, if not for the money?

He had no choice. That's the best he is going to get if he wants a job in the league. I think it's clear teams in the NFL now are looking for young people when it comes to RB's. Nobody is going to overpay for 30+ year old RB and count on him to be the starter.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If he wanted to win, he would have re-signed with the Jets at a much lower rate, or gone to an equally competitive team.

Again, he had no other option. It's not just about the winning, it's a matter of him being employed for the role teams ask of him. the Jets couldn't re-sign him because of the way the rules and the way FA is structured amongst the final four teams in the playoffs. Any team that makes the final four can't sign an UFA till they release a player, and can only spend a certain sum of cash. Forgive me, not exactly sure that's how it works but something of that degree or caliber.

And there are other players out there they probably valued more than TJ

aturnis · 03-16-2010, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Three guys in their 30's and Lilja is solid?

Expectations must be at an all time low amongst the fan base.

Wasn't pretty much 90%+ of the FA class of '10 over 30? Just a question.

With you, the Chiefs can't win. Ever.

Best RB in FA. check
Best G in FA. check
Best C in FA. check
Dane's approval. useless

Marcellus · 03-16-2010, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Because he can't.

you can't prove otherwise either. Either of you. You are speculating. Your speculation is no more fact than mine.
You can't PROVE no other teams were interested.

aturnis · 03-16-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Waters is declining but still far better than Lilja.

Ndukwe is truly a right guard and started the entire 2008 season for Miami at that position.

Colin Brown and Darryl Harris both looked very, very good at right and left guard during last year's preseason and Harris was called up to the 53 in December.

I'd like a Chiefs front office at some point in time draft young players and play them. I understand that they couldn't play Brown last year because they put him on IR but even with that said, I don't understand this signing.

And it most certainly isn't any cause for joy.

Yeah, that ship sailed with Herm. You should have sailed with him if you loved him so much.

stevieray · 03-16-2010, 05:13 PM

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Contrarian · 03-16-2010, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Maybe Waters gets released? It's not like he's one of Haley's guys. Expect change.

PhilFree

I bet that we trade him for a late round draft pick.

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