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Farzin · 03-16-2010, 11:28 AM

THE DEAL IS DONE

bsp4444 · 03-17-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

This.

If you call someone out and you are wrong then they are allowed to call you 1 name, unless it's Dane or Hamas and then they are allowed unlimited insults even if they are wrong. Although Dane has never been wrong so that's irrelevant in his case.

I humbly accept my humiliation.

I like the signing of Lilja.

-King- · 03-17-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Whats even more funny than you dumbasses thinking Casey Weigmann is a good player at this point in his career is that i'm Dane's lapdog. That's just some bullshit Adam came up with living in his grandparents basement.

So are you going to answer Sautos question or not?

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-17-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Whats even more funny than you dumbasses thinking Casey Weigmann is a good player at this point in his career is that i'm Dane's lapdog. That's just some bullshit Adam came up with living in his grandparents basement.

Casey is fine in the scheme KC will be running. He struggled in Herm's "power" running game here, but in Shanny's scheme he shined. When Mcfistpump switched over to power he struggled again. Centers also have a pretty long shelf life in this league.

Bill Lundberg · 03-17-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Whats even more funny than you dumbasses thinking Casey Weigmann is a good player at this point in his career is that i'm Dane's lapdog. That's just some bullshit Adam came up with living in his grandparents basement.

I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but if you're going to throw out insults and call people dumb asses then at least have the ca hones to back it up. Don't just disappear because someone has challenged you on something and you can't back it up with a response.

You said these guys were not the best FA's at their position. If you feel that way then man up and tell us who is the best FA at each position in question.

I may not always agree with Dane, Mecca or OTWP but I always respect them because they have a viewpoint or facts to back up their arguments. You are coming off like a chickenshit by ducking this question.

Titty Meat · 03-17-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

So are you going to answer Sautos question or not?

Whats his question?

Weigmann is 37 years old and has been playing for a decade now so naturally his production would fall off. Also he's struggled aginst 3-4 defenses guy what defense teams in the AFC West run?

Bill Lundberg · 03-17-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Whats his question?

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost....&postcount=221

Titty Meat · 03-17-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg

I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but if you're going to throw out insults and call people dumb asses then at least have the ca hones to back it up. Don't just disappear because someone has challenged you on something and you can't back it up with a response.

You said these guys were not the best FA's at their position. If you feel that way then man up and tell us who is the best FA at each position in question.

I may not always agree with Dane, Mecca or OTWP but I always respect them because they have a viewpoint or facts to back up their arguments. You are coming off like a chickenshit by ducking this question.

I answered the question awhile ago you choose to ignore it. If these guys were the best at there positions why weren't more teams interested?

Fraley is better than Weigmann. He's 5 years younger and can play more positions.

Judging by the interest other teams had in Chester Taylor you could argue he was the best free agent RB.

I don't know who the best guard is Wade Smith was pretty solid when he played, Chester Pitts, Bobbie Williams. Lilja is good IF his knees hold up but thats why he was released.

Bill Lundberg · 03-17-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

I answered the question awhile ago you choose to ignore it. If these guys were the best at there positions why weren't more teams interested?

Fraley is better than Weigmann. He's 5 years younger and can play more positions.

Judging by the interest other teams had in Chester Taylor you could argue he was the best free agent RB.

I don't know who the best guard is Wade Smith was pretty solid when he played, Chester Pitts, Bobbie Williams. Lilja is good IF his knees hold up but thats why he was released.

You never answered it with names until now. Nice job and for the record I agree with you on most of those.

RedThat · 03-17-2010, 10:53 AM

I find it amusing how some people think age determines the outcome of how a player will perform.

I say reserve your judgement over time. Play the wait and see approach. Let's see how he does when you know, he actually plays.

If you think 37 is old, then talk to Kevin Mawae because he is 39 and is still playing the center position at a high level. The guy is still making probowls, and Wiegmann made one last year. Both guys are warriors. Wiegmann is clearly a solid performer given the right scheme. If we didn't sign him, Shanahan would of. Give the guy a chance. Age shouldn't discourage the common fan imo.

**SAUTO** · 03-17-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg

You never answered it with names until now. Nice job and for the record I agree with you on most of those.

and all are basically a toss up besides fraley, who has played guard recently

Titty Meat · 03-17-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

I find it amusing how some people think age determines the outcome of how a player will perform.

I say reserve your judgement over time. Play the wait and see approach. Let's see how he does when you know, he actually plays.

If you think 37 is old, then talk to Kevin Mawae because he is 39 and is still playing the center position at a high level. The guy is still making probowls, and Wiegmann made one last year. Both guys are warriors. Wiegmann is clearly a solid performer given the right scheme. If we didn't sign him, Shanahan would of. Give the guy a chance. Age shouldn't discourage the common fan imo.

I'm sorry but age means alot. Someone referenced Will Shields earlier he was a pro bowler his whole career but his last few years he was average. Tim Grunhard even said once a guy has played 8-10 years in the league they begin to drop off.

Is it the scheme or is it the fact Weigmann has struggled aginst the 3-4 and last year every team in the divison played 3-4?

-King- · 03-17-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

I answered the question awhile ago you choose to ignore it. If these guys were the best at there positions why weren't more teams interested?

Fraley is better than Weigmann. He's 5 years younger and can play more positions.

What do you base this off of? He started 4 games last year. How do you know he's still better?

In 08, Weigmann was ranked way higher than him according to PFF. http://profootballfocus.com/by_posit...=25&numgames=1 Thats when Weigmann was used correctly and in the right scheme.

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Judging by the interest other teams had in Chester Taylor you could argue he was the best free agent RB.

I'd rather have Jones than Taylor.

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I don't know who the best guard is Wade Smith was pretty solid when he played, Chester Pitts, Bobbie Williams. Lilja is good IF his knees hold up but thats why he was released.

Still no definitive source saying that that's why he was released.

Titty Meat · 03-17-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

What do you base this off of? He started 4 games last year. How do you know he's still better?

In 08, Weigmann was ranked way higher than him according to PFF. http://profootballfocus.com/by_posit...=25&numgames=1 Thats when Weigmann was used correctly and in the right scheme.

I'd rather have Jones than Taylor.

Still no definitive source saying that that's why he was released.

You'd rather have Jones because he's a Chief now Taylor is not. Let's be honest Taylor does more as a backup than Jones.

-King- · 03-17-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

I'm sorry but age means alot. Someone referenced Will Shields earlier he was a pro bowler his whole career but his last few years he was average. Tim Grunhard even said once a guy has played 8-10 years in the league they begin to drop off.

Is it the scheme or is it the fact Weigmann has struggled aginst the 3-4 and last year every team in the divison played 3-4?

Weigmann weighs 285, asking him to play in a power scheme is a recipe for failure.

milkman · 03-17-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

I find it amusing how some people think age determines the outcome of how a player will perform.

I say reserve your judgement over time. Play the wait and see approach. Let's see how he does when you know, he actually plays.

If you think 37 is old, then talk to Kevin Mawae because he is 39 and is still playing the center position at a high level. The guy is still making probowls, and Wiegmann made one last year. Both guys are warriors. Wiegmann is clearly a solid performer given the right scheme. If we didn't sign him, Shanahan would of. Give the guy a chance. Age shouldn't discourage the common fan imo.

I find it amusing that people don't recognize that guys like Kevin Mawae are the exception, not the rule.

Age is an important factor, whether you want to recognize it or not.

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