Lilja is a Chief per 810

[Farzin]

THE DEAL IS DONE

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

Weigmann weighs 285, asking him to play in a power scheme is a recipe for failure.

You're making excuses. He's always struggled aginst 3-4 NT.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by billay

You'd rather have Jones because he's a Chief now Taylor is not. Let's be honest Taylor does more as a backup than Jones.

No, I'd rather have Jones because he's a proven starter. He can come in and play well if Charles gets injured. He's a way better runner than Chester and is only a bit worse in terms of pass catching. He's also a better leader from what I've heard from his former teammates.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by billay

You'd rather have Jones because he's a Chief now Taylor is not. Let's be honest Taylor does more as a backup than Jones.

let me preface this by saying that I would have rather have signed Taylor than Jones.

However, they are not the same kind of RB.

Jones is a better between the tackles runner than Taylor, while Taylor is a little more versatile.

With that in mind, Jones actually has some value as a complement to Charles that Taylor doesn't provide.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by milkman

let me preface this by saying that I would have rather have signed Taylor than Jones.

However, they are not the same kind of RB.

Jones is a better between the tackles runner than Taylor, while Taylor is a little more versatile.

With that in mind, Jones actually has some value as a complement to Charles that Taylor doesn't provide.

IMO Taylor would have kicked ass in Weis's system. He's great catching the ball out of the backfield.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by billay

You're making excuses. He's always struggled aginst 3-4 NT.

Before last year he only had to face one 3-4 team(Chargers) on a regular basis. So you're saying in those few games, he proved that he always struggles? What other games did you watch him struggle in?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by milkman

I find it amusing that people don't recognize that guys like Kevin Mawae are the exception, not the rule.

Age is an important factor, whether you want to recognize it or not.

Typically it is, but if there is a position that allows you to play past 35 at a high level it's center or guard with QB right behind those.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by billay

IMO Taylor would have kicked ass in Weis's system. He's great catching the ball out of the backfield.

True but if we have anybody catching passes out of the backfield, I want that to be Charles. More explosive.

I agree with milkman that Jones is a better complement to Charles.

[The Bad Guy]

So we are going to base the rankings of players based on the contracts they got?

Weiggman is a stop-gap player, who is here for one year and could push someone out who sucks. Is Weiggman the answer? No, but if we draft someone this one looks a lot better.

There is no world that Chester Taylor is better than Thomas Jones. Taylor has been a complimentary player for basically his entire career.

The Chiefs played this off-season brilliantly. They addressed needs without overspending and locking into ridiculous contracts.

I don't know why in the hell this is all a big deal. Regardless of Lilja's size or whether or not he failed a physical, he's a quality player who is still relatively young and played at a high level.

Someone asked if the Colts make mistakes with lineman. Absolutely they do. They let Jake Scott walk and he's been a rock for the Titans.

The Chiefs filled needs. I don't get the complaining.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

Before last year he only had to face one 3-4 team(Chargers) on a regular basis. So you're saying in those few games, he proved that he always struggles? What other games did you watch him struggle in?

I watched him play aginst Jamal Williams all the time when he played here.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by billay

IMO Taylor would have kicked ass in Weis's system. He's great catching the ball out of the backfield.

If Thomas Jones was strictly a 3rd down back the last few years, he could have showcased his pass catching ability.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

Before last year he only had to face one 3-4 team(Chargers) on a regular basis. So you're saying in those few games, he proved that he always struggles? What other games did you watch him struggle in?

I remember watching Casey. Whether we were playing a 3-4 or 4-3 team. If they had a big 315+ DT on their line, Casey would have to have help. Otherwise he'd get overpowered all day.

It's not my cup of tea in how Scott & Todd are building this O-line with a our starting Center & RG being both below 300 so they'd better take advantage of that and be running a lot of pitch plays and screens this year.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Chiefs take that Center from Notre Dame if he's still around in the 5th.

i like Olsen ... scrappy guy

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

So we are going to base the rankings of players based on the contracts they got?

Weiggman is a stop-gap player, who is here for one year and could push someone out who sucks. Is Weiggman the answer? No, but if we draft someone this one looks a lot better.

There is no world that Chester Taylor is better than Thomas Jones. Taylor has been a complimentary player for basically his entire career.

The Chiefs played this off-season brilliantly. They addressed needs without overspending and locking into ridiculous contracts.

I don't know why in the hell this is all a big deal. Regardless of Lilja's size or whether or not he failed a physical, he's a quality player who is still relatively young and played at a high level.

Someone asked if the Colts make mistakes with lineman. Absolutely they do. They let Jake Scott walk and he's been a rock for the Titans.

The Chiefs filled needs. I don't get the complaining.

Nobody is complaning I was asked who were the best players at there position. What do you mean lack of interest in a player says alot. Jones was signed to be a backup, Taylor has been one of the best 2nd Rb's in the league. Like Milkman said their different players but what Taylor would bring to this team in the passing game was huge. Don't forget it was reported this team was intersted in Taylor.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by billay

I'm sorry but age means alot. Someone referenced Will Shields earlier he was a pro bowler his whole career but his last few years he was average. Tim Grunhard even said once a guy has played 8-10 years in the league they begin to drop off.

Is it the scheme or is it the fact Weigmann has struggled aginst the 3-4 and last year every team in the divison played 3-4?

Tim Grunnard is generalizing.

For the most part he is right since football is a gruelling sport that can provide wear and tear on your body. But it all depends on the person? Some athletes bodies can handle it over an extended period of time more so than others. I think it all depends on the position you play, and the amount of physical contact you put your body through, and how you take care of your body in the off-season, etc. Take all those factors into consideration and that usually determines the longevity of an athletes career.

Some players are more meanier nastier and dirtier than others and are willing to put there bodies through more pain and physical punishment, as a result their bodies have to absorb all the shock, and as a consequence they don't last long.

*Clearly, if Wiegmann is in the right scheme he excels. Place him in the wrong scheme, disaster.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

If Thomas Jones was strictly a 3rd down back the last few years, he could have showcased his pass catching ability.

Instead he's a guy whos older than Taylor and has alot more mileage.