KU Next year - Page 2

DJay23 · 03-21-2010, 11:46 AM

We lost. It sucks. But we can sit here and feel sorry for ourselves, or we can look on the bright side, and realize that what lays ahead will be pretty good.

Here's what I think for next season:

Starters:
PG - Selby: I think we land him and his ability trumps Tyshawn's experience
SG - Johnson: Tyshawn may start the season there, but I think EJ, even a year younger is more mature than Taylor.
SF - Little: Judging by Mario's reaction after the game yesterday, he really wanted this for a team he didn't log a minute for. As a 5th year senior, who's gone through a lot of adversity, I think he'll make a HUGE impact next year. Could see time at PF just to get him on the floor, but we're already pretty deep at the post.
PF - Marcus: Could be all Big XII, player of the year time year next year for him. If he continues his progression upward. I don't think he'll go pro yet. One more year of development like we saw this year could land him in the lottery.
C/PF - Markieff: Showed some big improvement down the stretch this season. Will continue to be that steady role player rather than a show stopper. He won't bring in Aldrich numbers, but I can see him averaging 10 and 7 easily.

Guard rotation:
Releford: All accounts are that he and Little were two of the best players on the floor any given practice. If his perimeter game has improved as much as some reports indicate, he and Little could see time on the floor together.

Taylor: His athleticism will get him on the court, but I just don't see "it" with him. To tell the truth, if he were to transfer, I wouldn't be all that upset.

Reed: I think he's our heart and soul next season. They guy busts his ass non stop. I wouldn't be upset if he starts next year, especially early. We know he can shoot and that he's not flashy with the ball, but he doesn't turn it over.

Woolridge: Hopefully he can play his way into some minutes where EJ couldn't.

Bigs rotation:
Robinson: An offseason with Danny and the Morrises could be the difference for him. He reminds me a lot of Gooden his freshman year. So full of energy and moves, but just has the accelerator pinned. He has to learn how to slow down.
Withey: Seems to have a soft touch offensively, and at least a few moves in his bag. We know he can block shots. An offseason with Hudy could be the difference between him starting or coming in off the bench.

Coaching staff:
Self: Steady as a rock. We can nit pick in hindsight when he should have started pressing, but he's won a national title and we haven't.
Dooley: His name has come up for some open positions. He may be gone.
Manning: I hope Danny stays forever. He's done wonders for guys like Jackson, Kaun, the Morrises, and hopefully he can whip Robinson into shape.
Townsend: Keep getting those big recruits Coach T.

If Dooley leaves, who fills the spot? Hinson is rumored to be the next guy in. Ballard is headed to Baker. Norm Roberts is out of work as is Gillispie, though I could see Billy taking a job at a lower tier school next season.

Long post I know, but I have to turn this crappy feeling into something positive.

I hope the talk of actual basketball keeps away a certain element.

**Lzen** · 03-21-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

Well, according to the scout recruiting page, the only teams that were interested in him that were in the tourney to begin with were Tennessee, us and UK. The others didn't even make it, like UConn.

Well then I hope UK and Tennessee don't get any farther. At least Self has something those coaches don't have - a title.

Pablo · 03-21-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

But as a Chief fan, I have to say the banner call of "Wait till next year" is pretty hollow.

Eh, as Chiefs fans the "wait till next year" call means wait until next year when we go 9-7 and hope to squeak out a wild-card.

It's completely different with a perennial contending program.

**Lzen** · 03-21-2010, 12:11 PM

I really don't understand the MU trolls. I mean, do you guys really get a thrill out of being assholes to the KU fans in this thread who have done nothing to deserve your crap? I mean, I know there are certain KU fans that are obnoxious and deserve the shit, but not the ones in this thread (so far). The sad thing is that I think it says a lot more about you than it does about us.

Pablo · 03-21-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

They should just hand you guys the National Championship now.

**** off.

Nobody said anything about a NC.

milkman · 03-21-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo

Eh, as Chiefs fans the "wait till next year" call means wait until next year when we go 9-7 and hope to squeak out a wild-card.

It's completely different with a perennial contending program.

Tell that to the people that thought the Chiefs were perennial contenders in the 90s.

And regardless of the differences, the fact remains, it's hollow.

DJay23 · 03-21-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I really don't understand the MU trolls. I mean, do you guys really get a thrill out of being assholes to the KU fans in this thread who have done nothing to deserve your crap? I mean, I know there are certain KU fans that are obnoxious and deserve the shit, but not the ones in this thread (so far). The sad thing is that I think it says a lot more about you than it does about us.

I expect it on a board with a mix of KU, KSU, and Mizzou.

The thread was meant for us to sort of move on from this and look forward rather than wallow in self pity. Yet somehow these champions of internet burns have turned it into us proclaiming our dominance for next year.

You're right, it does make them look bad.

**Lzen** · 03-21-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Tell that to the people that thought the Chiefs were perennial contenders in the 90s.

And regardless of the differences, the fact remains, it's hollow.

Not quite the same thing. KU did win a championship 2 years ago. We know know the program is capable of doing it because they have done it. The Chiefs and Chokenheimer never were able to even get to the title game.

kstater · 03-21-2010, 12:23 PM

The woe is me stuff is top notch fellas.

**Reaper16** · 03-21-2010, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

You guys are practically in the final four already!

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

They should just hand you guys the National Championship now.

That is just a blatant mischaracterization of the discussion happening in this thread. C'mon now.

milkman · 03-21-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Not quite the same thing. KU did win a championship 2 years ago. We know know the program is capable of doing it because they have done it. The Chiefs and Chokenheimer never were able to even get to the title game.

I get that.

But I imagine the feeling is much the same for you as the feeling I experienced in '71.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-21-2010, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I really don't understand the MU trolls. I mean, do you guys really get a thrill out of being assholes to the KU fans in this thread who have done nothing to deserve your crap? I mean, I know there are certain KU fans that are obnoxious and deserve the shit, but not the ones in this thread (so far). The sad thing is that I think it says a lot more about you than it does about us.

I have no allegiance either way, but I hate that guys like you, Guru and Monty - the 1% of KU fan that isn't full douchebag has to take the heat for the other 99% who are here constantly running their yap, year after year, then disappear when you guys get knocked out by a huge underdog.

Best thing you can do is stay out of the fray, or plead to the douchebag 99%ers to quit acting like arrogant, entitled pricks year after year.

They've brought it on themselves, unfortunately, guys like you have to put up with the inevitable response to their douchebaggery.

KChiefs1 · 03-21-2010, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

That is just a blatant mischaracterization of the discussion happening in this thread. C'mon now.

You are right but are you trying to tell me that if this was a MU thread about how great we are going to be next year there wouldn't be some KU brethren giving their two cents on it?

kstater · 03-21-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

You are right but are you trying to tell me that if this was a MU thread about how great we are going to be next year there wouldn't be some KU brethren giving their two cents on it?

delusions of grandeur

**Reaper16** · 03-21-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

You are right but are you trying to tell me that if this was a MU thread about how great we are going to be next year there wouldn't be some KU brethren giving their two cents on it?

Oh they'd be up in that shit for sure.

But I carry myself outside the realm of trolldom and I expect the same out of everyone for every fanbase.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 03-21-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I have no allegiance either way, but I hate that guys like you, Guru and Monty - the 1% of KU fan that isn't full douchebag has to take the heat for the other 99% who are here constantly running their yap, year after year, then disappear when you guys get knocked out by a huge underdog.

Best thing you can do is stay out of the fray, or plead to the douchebag 99%ers to quit acting like arrogant, entitled pricks year after year.

They've brought it on themselves, unfortunately, guys like you have to put up with the inevitable response to their douchebaggery.

Absolutely. Bearcat, Silock, and others are included as well. I've absolutely loved every minute of some of those guys who troll rival fans game threads getting their panties bunched up over this. I'm sorry for a lot of you as well. I've largely kept my mouth shut, but it's been hard.

03-21-2010, 11:46 AM
DJay23 Rock Chalk Jayhawk Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: PA Casino cash: $-516683	Next year We lost. It sucks. But we can sit here and feel sorry for ourselves, or we can look on the bright side, and realize that what lays ahead will be pretty good. Here's what I think for next season: Starters: PG - Selby: I think we land him and his ability trumps Tyshawn's experience SG - Johnson: Tyshawn may start the season there, but I think EJ, even a year younger is more mature than Taylor. SF - Little: Judging by Mario's reaction after the game yesterday, he really wanted this for a team he didn't log a minute for. As a 5th year senior, who's gone through a lot of adversity, I think he'll make a HUGE impact next year. Could see time at PF just to get him on the floor, but we're already pretty deep at the post. PF - Marcus: Could be all Big XII, player of the year time year next year for him. If he continues his progression upward. I don't think he'll go pro yet. One more year of development like we saw this year could land him in the lottery. C/PF - Markieff: Showed some big improvement down the stretch this season. Will continue to be that steady role player rather than a show stopper. He won't bring in Aldrich numbers, but I can see him averaging 10 and 7 easily. Guard rotation: Releford: All accounts are that he and Little were two of the best players on the floor any given practice. If his perimeter game has improved as much as some reports indicate, he and Little could see time on the floor together. Taylor: His athleticism will get him on the court, but I just don't see "it" with him. To tell the truth, if he were to transfer, I wouldn't be all that upset. Reed: I think he's our heart and soul next season. They guy busts his ass non stop. I wouldn't be upset if he starts next year, especially early. We know he can shoot and that he's not flashy with the ball, but he doesn't turn it over. Woolridge: Hopefully he can play his way into some minutes where EJ couldn't. Bigs rotation: Robinson: An offseason with Danny and the Morrises could be the difference for him. He reminds me a lot of Gooden his freshman year. So full of energy and moves, but just has the accelerator pinned. He has to learn how to slow down. Withey: Seems to have a soft touch offensively, and at least a few moves in his bag. We know he can block shots. An offseason with Hudy could be the difference between him starting or coming in off the bench. Coaching staff: Self: Steady as a rock. We can nit pick in hindsight when he should have started pressing, but he's won a national title and we haven't. Dooley: His name has come up for some open positions. He may be gone. Manning: I hope Danny stays forever. He's done wonders for guys like Jackson, Kaun, the Morrises, and hopefully he can whip Robinson into shape. Townsend: Keep getting those big recruits Coach T. If Dooley leaves, who fills the spot? Hinson is rumored to be the next guy in. Ballard is headed to Baker. Norm Roberts is out of work as is Gillispie, though I could see Billy taking a job at a lower tier school next season. Long post I know, but I have to turn this crappy feeling into something positive. I hope the talk of actual basketball keeps away a certain element.
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