Football Report: Raiders in hottest pursuit of McNabb - Page 5

Quesadilla Joe · 03-25-2010, 02:20 PM

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For more than two months, the Eagles played it coy regarding the possibility of trading quarterback Donovan McNabb, hoping for an offer they couldn't refuse.

And then when the offer never came, they needed a Plan B.

Plan B has unfolded far more haphazardly, with coach Andy Reid publicly acknowledging that offers have been made for McNabb and then smoldering rumors of a trade to the Rams becoming a report from Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer that the trade could happened by the end of the week, if not by the end of the day.

(The Rams strongly denied the report, and McLane has since backed off dramatically. But the damage may already have been done. We're hearing that McLane had been hoping to become the new Eagles beat writer for the Inquirer, replacing Bob Brookover, who now covers the Phillies. We're also hearing that the swing and the miss on the McNabb-to-Rams story may have kept that from happening.)

So if the Rams aren't doing a deal, which team will? Jason La Canfora of NFL.com reports that the Raiders are "in heaviest pursuit." Other possibilities are the Bills and Cardinals. (However, one media source with whom we spoke is convinced that Buffalo owner Ralph Wilson would never pay McNabb an eight-figure salary.)

Even though McNabb reportedly prefers Arizona to Buffalo or Oakland, the Raiders have shown that they're not afraid to trade for a reluctant player with only one year left on his contract. They did it last year with defensive end Richard Seymour, who now carries the exclusive level of the franchise tag.

So stay tuned. As explained in the latest edition of PFT Daily, we now think it's just a matter of time before the Eagles move McNabb.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...uit-of-mcnabb/

**Dylan** · 03-26-2010, 01:19 AM

Anyway, I hope it's true -- In that case, the Giants get the better deal -- Aso.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-26-2010, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

They still have that kicker they drafted in the first round

True enough!

KcKing · 03-26-2010, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan

February 19, 2009
The Oakland Raiders reached agreement with cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha on a $45.3 million, three-year contract that makes him the highest-paid defensive back in NFL history.

Sources said Asomugha is guaranteed $28.5 million in a complicated deal that features a provision in which the entire contract can be guaranteed if the Raiders decide to keep the 27-year-old for the third season.
Source: ESPN.com

I may just not have understood what ESPN was trying to say, but aren't all 45.3 million, 3 year contracts fully guaranteed if the team keeps said player for all 3 years? Or is part of the 45.3 million number bonuses that are not payed if he doesn't reach plateaus, but are then paid at the end of the 3rd year even if he didn't reach said plateaus??

Hell, I just confused myself again.

Over-Head · 03-26-2010, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

The Raiders with an actual QB....would be interesting.

Dangerous would be more like it, especially IF our WR's ever learn to catch

Over-Head · 03-26-2010, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

I disagree Asomugha set his contract up so he can bail with Oakland getting nothing when his contract is up. They need to move him for somthing while they can IMO~

Unfortunatly, THIS
If we lose Namdi, we may as well just sart blitzing every down, cuz we sure as **** ain't gonna have much in the backfield to stop anyone

kcxiv · 03-26-2010, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan

Except the Eagles don't make foolish trades. I can see the Eagles trading McNabb for Aso -- But I don't believe for a minute, the Eagles would throw Asante Samuel into the mix. Why? Asante is as good as Aso -- In fact, I think Asante is better. They both were drafted the same year -- Asante prefers playing zone and Aso seems to play man-to-man.

Actually, I would rather have a DB like Asante that averages 7-9 INT a year -- than have a DB, that supposedly QB's avoid throwing near.

When the Giants played Oakland in 2009, they used eight different WRs, and two RBs to beat Oakland 44-7. Honestly, Aso was a non-factor -- Eli did not avoid his side. In fact, Bradshaw and a couple of receivers blew right past him --

It could have been an off day for Aso. But, if you are the highest paid DB in the NFL, with an annual salary of $16 - $17 million -- you are expected to stop a receiver from catching or advancing the ball. Asante would have had at the very least one game changing INT ... In my opinion, Aso is not a shut-down corner. Also, check out his career INT stats -- None in the past couple of seasons.

I dont know, so I will ask: When was the last time Mike Florio came out with a good scoop?

Rushing ATT YDS TD LG
A. Bradshaw 11 110 2 24
B. Jacobs 21 67 0 12
D. Carr 4 27 1 12
G. Johnson 5 16 0 11

Receiving REC YDS TD LG
S. Smith 3 70 0 43
A. Bradshaw 1 55 0 55
H. Nicks 4 49 1 17
M. Manningham 2 36 1 30
D. Johnson 3 26 0 13
T. Beckum 2 12 0 11
B. Jacobs 1 8 0 8
D. Hagan 1 7 0 7

I rather have a QB that doesnt get thrown his way at all. It eliminates their best player it makes it a ****ton easier to gameplan for. Give me a shutdown corner like that every single day over someone who will get 7-9 int's. I am going to guess by avoiding Aso, you are going to get the turn overs, but just by other people.

**SAUTO** · 03-26-2010, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan

Anyway, I hope it's true -- In that case, the Giants get the better deal -- Aso.

i guess i didnt follow, when/how did the giants get involved?
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TheGuardian · 03-26-2010, 06:23 PM

The Raiders with McNabb are still a dog shit double digit loss team. That defense sucks and so does their WR's and backs.

**SAUTO** · 03-26-2010, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

The Raiders with McNabb are still a dog shit double digit loss team. That defense sucks and so does their WR's and backs.

i disagree here, they just need a qb to be a competitive team.
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Mecca · 03-26-2010, 06:28 PM

They'd probably be a 7-9 win team with McNabb so they'd go from being shitty to being mediocre.

The problem is I seriously doubt Philly wants that Asomugha contract.

ToxSocks · 03-26-2010, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

They'd probably be a 7-9 win team with McNabb so they'd go from being shitty to being mediocre.

The problem is I seriously doubt Philly wants that Asomugha contract.

Ima have to disagree. I'd say they're a 10 win team and possible Wild card birth with McNabb. They're decent at the skill positions.

Mecca · 03-26-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Ima have to disagree. I'd say they're a 10 win team and possible Wild card birth with McNabb. They're decent at the skill positions.

They're ok, they have speed, Murphy has some talent, Zach Miller is good...their line is pretty bland and if they'd get Michael Bush the ball and use McFadden properly they could do something there..

But their defense still has holes, more than anything they need an end and a CB, have fun trying to fill that.

TheGuardian · 03-26-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

i disagree here, they just need a qb to be a competitive team.
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Not really. That defensive front is unreal bad against the run. And have been for quote some time. And outside of Aso, their secondary is atrocious.

Their backs and WR's are nothing either. McBusten hasn't done anything, has no balance or vision, and is just a colossal bust.

Simply inserting a decent QB on a bad team will make them a little better, but that team has drafted so poorly their talent pool is even more shallow than the Chiefs.

**RNR** · 03-26-2010, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Not really. That defensive front is unreal bad against the run. And have been for quote some time. And outside of Aso, their secondary is atrocious.

Their backs and WR's are nothing either. McBusten hasn't done anything, has no balance or vision, and is just a colossal bust.

Simply inserting a decent QB on a bad team will make them a little better, but that team has drafted so poorly their talent pool is even more shallow than the Chiefs.

Nobody is more critical of Oakland than I but you take is uninformed. The secondary part is laughable~

TheGuardian · 03-26-2010, 07:45 PM

Because Huff grabbed a bunch of picks early in the season? Hardly. The Raiders front 7 is beyond atrocious and has been for years and years now. There really isn't much denying that as the Raiders have ranked near last in rush defense in some form or fashion for a long time now. Kirk Morrison is garbage, as is Thomas Howard against the run. Tommy Kelly? Dog shit. Seymour had a GREAT impact............in the first game of the season against the Chargers.

Adding McNabb might make the Raiders more competitive but they would still be a double digit loss team.

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03-26-2010, 07:45 PM	#75
TheGuardian MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $6305299	Because Huff grabbed a bunch of picks early in the season? Hardly. The Raiders front 7 is beyond atrocious and has been for years and years now. There really isn't much denying that as the Raiders have ranked near last in rush defense in some form or fashion for a long time now. Kirk Morrison is garbage, as is Thomas Howard against the run. Tommy Kelly? Dog shit. Seymour had a GREAT impact............in the first game of the season against the Chargers. Adding McNabb might make the Raiders more competitive but they would still be a double digit loss team.
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