NFL Draft Bradford Please - Page 18

**jAZ** · 01-08-2009, 10:07 PM

I don't think he's coming out, but he's my choice in the QB dice-roll.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-10-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'm guessing very few people watched USC this year, Sanchez was pressured and was hit a lot this year, and more often than not, delivered a strike in the face of that pressure.

The overwhelming majority of those begging for Bradford live in Big 12 country. They see Oklahoma almost weekly.

What they didn't see weekly was Matt Stafford and Georgia or Mark Sanchez and USC (much like Matt Ryan last year).

The debate is worthless when the person you're debating doesn't have all of the facts.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-10-2009, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The overwhelming majority of those begging for Bradford live in Big 12 country. They see Oklahoma almost weekly.

What they didn't see weekly was Matt Stafford and Georgia or Mark Sanchez and USC (much like Matt Ryan last year).

The debate is worthless when the person you're debating doesn't have all of the facts.

Very true. It's also why people go apeshit when a player has a good/bad bowl game, because in most instances, it's the only time they've seen that player.

Luckily, I live in an area that gets an SEC game every week, and the majority of them were Georgia games.

And USC is always on here, for some reason. If the ABC affiliate has a game, it's likely USC.

eazyb81 · 01-10-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I'm not sure how you could argue that he has great poise and pocket presence when he played behind a line that gave him such outstanding protection.

Now he showed something in the game against Florida, but that's not a lot to work with to really make an evaluation.

As for Sanchez, he didn't get the same kind of time that Bradford had, and he did show a lot of poise in the face of pressure all year long.

I don't think poise and pocket presence are affected by o-line play. Bradford always knows where he's at, where D-linemen are, and is not scared of holding the ball until the very last second to make that perfect pass. All great QBs have that sixth sense. He really can sense pressure extremely well, but again, we don't know for sure if that confidence will always be with him or if it's due to the star studded o-line.

Sanchez didn't have Bradford's line, but it's still one of the better lines in terms of pure talent in the country. They certainly dominated the majority of Pac 10 opponents they faced. Also, Sanchez has McKnight, Gable, Turner, etc. to dump the ball off too. You don't have to be perfect when you have those guys on your side.

**Baby Lee** · 01-10-2009, 01:52 PM

After eons and eons of discussion ad infinitum on this subject, has NO ONE even countenanced the merits of a good coach versus a blue chipper?
How many blue chippers did Walsh, Bellichik or Holmgren mentor?
Maybe the answer is to put a little more effort into examining the heads on the QBs shoulders, and who will be whispering in their ear day-in/day-out?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-10-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

After eons and eons of discussion ad infinitum on this subject, has NO ONE even countenanced the merits of a good coach versus a blue chipper?
How many blue chippers did Walsh, Bellichik or Holmgren mentor?
Maybe the answer is to put a little more effort into examining the heads on the QBs shoulders, and who will be whispering in their ear day-in/day-out?

That's (coaching) absolutely an issue, and has been pointed out countless times to the people that think Matt Ryan would be the OROY regardless of where he played.

There are TONS of factors that come into play.

FringeNC · 01-10-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

After eons and eons of discussion ad infinitum on this subject, has NO ONE even countenanced the merits of a good coach versus a blue chipper?
How many blue chippers did Walsh, Bellichik or Holmgren mentor?
Maybe the answer is to put a little more effort into examining the heads on the QBs shoulders, and who will be whispering in their ear day-in/day-out?

I definitely think there is way too much emphasis in these QB threads put on physical tools. Tom Brady does not have dominant physical tools. Neither does Peyton Manning. Neither does Drew Brees. JaMarcus Russell does.

This so reminds me of the scouts vs. moneyballers in baseball. The scouts drool over "tools", whereas the moneyballers are concerned with trivial things like can the guy play baseball and does he know the strike zone?

bowener · 01-10-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer

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Didn't you ****ers watch 1 minute of ESPN yesterday?

I honestly thought that for a moment Tebow was Jesus, and he saved the ****ing world from a killer asteroid, or maybe a marauding horde of dastardly space Tyrannosaurus Rexi... is Rexi the plural for Rex? Rexes just doesnt seem right, so I am going with Rexi.

Also, he can count to infinity, twice.
Leaps small buildings....
Google asks him for information when it doesn't know.....
Shits cancer curing teddy bears
Killed all other gods except his God.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-10-2009, 02:46 PM

Yes, let's complete the Triad Of Douchebaggery by drafting our very own Cutler/Rivers with a God Complex.

yay.

dorseybowe · 01-10-2009, 03:01 PM

Bradford is bigger than I thought he was, and his completion percentage is phenomenal.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-10-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Yes, let's complete the Triad Of Douchebaggery by drafting our very own Cutler/Rivers with a God Complex.

yay.

God loves winners

**jAZ** · 03-29-2010, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

I don't think he's coming out, but he's my choice in the QB dice-roll.

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nah

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This is going to go well....

Please tell me your just making that up?

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Tebow

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Reesing

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Chase McDanielson

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Uh Bradford NO!

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Hell no to bradford

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

TIM TEBOW!!!!!!

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Mecca · 03-29-2010, 05:57 PM

Is it funny because in that class he's still the 3rd QB.

Hammock Parties · 03-29-2010, 05:58 PM

jAZ, stay in DC. How many times do I have to tell you?

Mr. Laz · 03-29-2010, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Don't you know that's the mark of a good pro quarterback.

The ability to get gangraped and make mediocre throws is what separates the true prospects from guys that need 3 seconds to make perfect throws (mere system QBs of course).

Bradford should stay, so he can show all the scouts that he knows how to make off balanced throws while running for his life, that's what you need in an NFL QB these days.

how'd that turn out for him?

Mecca · 03-29-2010, 08:40 PM

It worked out well because apparently the NFL doesn't care that he got injured, he's going higher than he would have last year.

Odd yet true.

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