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TRR · 04-18-2010, 10:56 AM

Not sure if it has been posted.....

Chiefs Are 'Badly' Trying To Trade Down To Middle Of First*Round

by Joel Thorman on Apr 18, 2010 10:34 AM CDT in 2010 Campaign

Last year about this time, Michael Lombardi of the National Football Post first reported that the Chiefs were "in love" with LSU DE Tyson Jackson. A few days later and Jackson was the Chiefs pick in the draft.

Now Lombardi reports that the Chiefs are trying like hell to move down in the draft.

"The Chiefs are trying, and I mean really trying, to move down," Lombardi reports. "My sources tell me they'll be willing to go down as far as 15 for the right deal because they feel they can find a player in that range."

It's a fine line between trading down and trading down too far. According to Lombardi, our theory of the Eagles offering up the 24th and 37th picks for the Chiefs fifth pick doesn't look like it's happening. By staying around 15, they can still have a shot at a game changer -- Alabama LB Rolando McClain and Texas S Earl Thomas come to mind here -- as well as picking up extra selections.

That said, who's the Chiefs trading partner? SB Nation's Mocking The Draft takes an excellent look at this situation and comes to the conclusion that San Francisco might be the only team in that area that has a chance of moving up.

Lombardi reports the Chiefs are hoping someone wants to get in line to pick Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen.

philfree · 04-18-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I swear, if some of you guys were in Green Bay in 1959 you would've run Vince Lombardi out of town. You can't judge guys based on one year of history.

Sure they can it's The Chiefs Planet Way!

PhilFree

Hog's Gone Fishin · 04-18-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I swear, if some of you guys were in Green Bay in 1959 you would've run Vince Lombardi out of town. You can't judge guys based on one year of history.

Peyton Manning sucked his first year and never recovered !

milkman · 04-18-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I swear, if some of you guys were in Green Bay in 1959 you would've run Vince Lombardi out of town. You can't judge guys based on one year of history.

Frankly, I don't know what Lombardi did in his first season as the Packers GM, but I do know that you build teams today far differently than you did in '59.

If Lombardi built the lines first and then went after playmaker positions later, then in '59, he was doing it the right way for that time.

Today's NFL is far different.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-18-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

People, calm down.

This is an evaluation draft.

chiefzilla1501 · 04-18-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

I'm all for it. I could care less to filter out a bunch of threads that have nothing to do with football. Right now the first page threads in the lounge that aren't football related total total around 18 to 20. Football related 5 or 6.

I'm all for Dan Williams if we traded down with San Fran and I knew he would be there at 13.

I'd rather wait until the second round and draft a Nose Tackle like Cody or Cam Thomas, who probably are not a whole lot worse or different than Williams.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-18-2010, 11:59 AM

Well, I guess if the Chiefs are going to trade down, this is the year to do it.

But they'd better get value and not have to give up any of their current picks to do so.

And yes, there is a big difference between Berry & Thomas: Thomas has only played two years, is two inches shorter and his arms are shorter.

I hope they stay at #5 and pick an elite talent but apparently, they don't think that's necessary.

**DeezNutz** · 04-18-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Seriously, it sounds really ****ing stupid.

But if we can waste an entire calendar year and many find it perfectly acceptable, I see no problem in labeling this a throw-away draft.

What should we expect?!!!? Results?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-18-2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Seriously, it sounds really ****ing stupid.

But if we can waste an entire calendar year and many find it perfectly acceptable, I see no problem in labeling this a throw-away draft.

What should we expect?!!!? Results?

Whoa, whoa there. Results?

Who the **** are you to expect results 14 months into a new regime?

It's a process.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-18-2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

OMG

i just don't know what the hell you guys see in Mays.

I think Mays would be a great pick.

In the third round.

I'm not a fan. He's a physical specimen but has a long way to go before he's anything special as a football player.

**DeezNutz** · 04-18-2010, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Whoa, whoa there. Results?

Who the **** are you to expect results 14 months into a new regime?

It's a process.

If Pioli wants to trade down, I completely trust his judgment that none of the remaining player are worthy of the #5 overall selection. /Tyson Jackson's mom

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-18-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If Pioli wants to trade down, I completely trust his judgment that none of the remaining player are worthy of the #5 overall selection. /Tyson Jackson's mom

Oh, shit just got real.

Mr. Laz · 04-18-2010, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I guess I should say too that a trade down is fine if we absolutely sodomize some team that has a crush on a player. I recognize that there are some trades that simply can't be turned down because the odds are too good that you'll win. It's fine to go fishing for that.

this

a 2nd rounder to move from 5 to 7 from cleveland

then

both of the 49ers 1st rounders to move from 7 to 13

we end up with

1st round
#13
#17

2nd round
#36
#38
#50

3rd round
#68

4th round
102

5th round
136
142 (from MIA)
144 (from CAR)

it's not my first choice but we could do alot of damage with it

going by Walter's mock we could have

13 - CB Joe Haden
17 - OT anthony Davis
36 - OLB Jerry Hughes
38 - NT Terrance Cody
50 - WR Damien Williams
68 - S Morgan Burnett
102 - C Matt Tennant
136 - ILB Sean Lee
142 - WR/KR Jordan Shipley
144 - DE/OLB O'brien Schofield

chiefzilla1501 · 04-18-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Frankly, I don't know what Lombardi did in his first season as the Packers GM, but I do know that you build teams today far differently than you did in '59.

If Lombardi built the lines first and then went after playmaker positions later, then in '59, he was doing it the right way for that time.

Today's NFL is far different.

What would you think if the Chiefs traded down and drafted an OLB? Because that's one scenario that I could be okay with, if they think a guy like Graham or Kindle or Hughes has potential to be a playmaker at that position. Because that's a position that I think is hugely important and grades just about right in the mid first round.

Mr. Laz · 04-18-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think Mays would be a great pick.

In the third round.

I'm not a fan. He's a physical specimen but has a long way to go before he's anything special as a football player.

agreed

Hammock Parties · 04-18-2010, 12:11 PM

I don't know what this means for certain, but it would seem to indicate absolutely zero interest in Jimmy Clausen.

Sad.

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DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	Well, I guess if the Chiefs are going to trade down, this is the year to do it. But they'd better get value and not have to give up any of their current picks to do so. And yes, there is a big difference between Berry & Thomas: Thomas has only played two years, is two inches shorter and his arms are shorter. I hope they stay at #5 and pick an elite talent but apparently, they don't think that's necessary.
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $690478	I don't know what this means for certain, but it would seem to indicate absolutely zero interest in Jimmy Clausen. Sad. __________________ Chiefs game films
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