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Old 04-18-2010, 10:56 AM  
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Chiefs Are 'Badly' Trying To Trade Down To Middle Of First Round

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Chiefs Are 'Badly' Trying To Trade Down To Middle Of First*Round

by Joel Thorman on Apr 18, 2010 10:34 AM CDT in 2010 Campaign

Last year about this time, Michael Lombardi of the National Football Post first reported that the Chiefs were "in love" with LSU DE Tyson Jackson. A few days later and Jackson was the Chiefs pick in the draft.

Now Lombardi reports that the Chiefs are trying like hell to move down in the draft.

"The Chiefs are trying, and I mean really trying, to move down," Lombardi reports. "My sources tell me they'll be willing to go down as far as 15 for the right deal because they feel they can find a player in that range."

It's a fine line between trading down and trading down too far. According to Lombardi, our theory of the Eagles offering up the 24th and 37th picks for the Chiefs fifth pick doesn't look like it's happening. By staying around 15, they can still have a shot at a game changer -- Alabama LB Rolando McClain and Texas S Earl Thomas come to mind here -- as well as picking up extra selections.

That said, who's the Chiefs trading partner? SB Nation's Mocking The Draft takes an excellent look at this situation and comes to the conclusion that San Francisco might be the only team in that area that has a chance of moving up.

Lombardi reports the Chiefs are hoping someone wants to get in line to pick Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen.
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Old 04-18-2010, 06:56 PM   #271
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The top five players in the draft are likely

1) Suh
2) Berry
3) Spiller
4) McCoy
5) Haden

in that order

you could argue that all are "blue chip" players
No way I would put McCoy that high.
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Old 04-18-2010, 06:57 PM   #272
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I'm guessing the Chiefs bring in some kind of an option to compete. I'm just afraid it's Tebow or Lefevour. Or even a later round project like Tony Pike.
if we drafted any of those guys, it wouldnt be for them to compete. They would all be big projects.
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Old 04-18-2010, 06:59 PM   #273
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Old 04-18-2010, 07:00 PM   #274
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History lesson:

Who was the #1 overall pick in 1996?
Answer: WR Keyshawn Johnson

Who was the #19 pick?
Answer: WR Marvin Harrison

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Who was the #8 pick?
Answer: RB Tim Biakabutuka

Who was the #14 pick?
Answer: RB Eddie George

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Who was the #2 pick?
Answer: LB Kevin Hardy

Who was the #26 pick?
Answer: LB Ray Lewis
Those are hand picked.

What QB in Peyton Mannings draft class was better than Peyton?
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He's talking about Gerald McCoy.
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He's talking about Gerald McCoy.
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At the end of the day trading up or down doesn't matter, it's what you do with the picks.
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Is is just me, or does anyone else kind of wish the Topic Header said "Desperately" instead of "Badly"?
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I don't usually wade into these discussions because I'll admit I don't work in the NFL and only have fan experience. I see the argument this way.

Those that want Berry believe he's a can't miss pick and will be an anchor on defense for 10 years. I'm guessing you'll give him 1 rookie year to make mistakes but after that he better be pretty close to pro-bowl guy. Especially with the money he'll get.

Those that want pickle boy believe Cassel will never amount to a playoff win. Valid argument. But I think if you choose Clausen you must also admit to the fact the Chiefs will give Cassel two more years to prove himself, unless of course he starts peeling wallpaper off of Arrowhead and eating it. Thus Clausen will only really get true NFL experience in a year and a half at the earliest, with the exception of an injury to Cassel. If given time to throw Cassel will get that much time to pass/fail in the Haley/Pioli environment. Plus Clausen makes pro-bowl guy money while sitting on the bench.

Those that want to trade down believe the core of the team is more important than 'one guy'. You don't believe Berry or Clausen's talents will take the Chiefs to the playoffs any sooner than trading down and getting one or two more early round picks.

Those that believe we should pick an OL because it all starts there.

So here are my choices given those options.....

1) Trade down and use the first two or three picks on defense. I think Croyle is a match stick waiting for someone to break him so you draft a QB you've scouted probably no sooner than the third round. I'm a firm believer defense is what takes you to the playoffs so sue me.

2) Berry. I've read enough posts to think he's the real deal and will be a solid anchor. The reason this is my second choice is because I wanted Curry last year and realize liking a pick too much isn't necessarily the right choice.

3) Clausen. I don't actually get why people think he's a good 5th pick knowing we've already sold out on Cassel but enough of you like him to sway me. If we pick him and he fails I'll haunt everyone that swayed me.

4) OL. Draft a good prospect in the 2nd or 3rd round. We've added some depth (arguably) during the offseason so this shouldn't be our primary concern until Albert is given one more year at LT.

Flame away but remember we're all on the Chief's payroll at the same salary.
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Is is just me, or does anyone else kind of wish the Topic Header said "Desperately" instead of "Badly"?
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So lets say we don't trade down and draft Berry at 5 and then Colt McCoy with one of our#2s.

Listening to Trent Dilfer yesterday he thinks McCoy isn't as ready as Clousen or Bradford but 3 years from now will be the best QB in the class.

You get a stud defender and young QB to groom.
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So lets say we don't trade down and draft Berry at 5 and then Colt McCoy with one of our#2s.

Listening to Trent Dilfer yesterday he thinks McCoy isn't as ready as Clousen or Bradford but 3 years from now will be the best QB in the class.You get a stud defender and young QB to groom.

Ha! Been telling everyone this, but noooooo, ole Hogfarmer don't know shit.

Now I got Dilfer to back me. **** you all!
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