Chiefs listing McCluster as a WR

[Mecca]

I don't even think anyone hates McCluster, it's more that for our team there were better picks available. Guys with equal value to McCluster that play much more valuable positions.

[KC kid]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't even think anyone hates McCluster, it's more that for our team there were better picks available. Guys with equal value to McCluster that play much more valuable positions.

I am not saying you hate McCluster. I am just commenting on how you continually bring up his 40

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't even think anyone hates McCluster, it's more that for our team there were better picks available. Guys with equal value to McCluster that play much more valuable positions.

This. Arenas the same way.

[KC kid]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

This. Arenas the same way.

I agree. I am baffled by the Arenas pick. That means he will be the best of them all

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by KC kid

I agree. I am baffled by the Arenas pick. That means he will be the best of them all

I picked him in the 4th in our mock draft. That is where most everybody in the country figured he would go. He is basically just a return guy in the NFL. I love him for that but being drafted in the 2nd means he has to play nickel as well.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I picked him in the 4th in our mock draft. That is where most everybody in the country figured he would go. He is basically just a return guy in the NFL. I love him for that but being drafted in the 2nd means he has to play nickel as well.

He got drafted in front of several CB's who have futures as starters.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mecca

He got drafted in front of several CB's who have futures as starters.

Drafting a CB in the second round is like throwing a dart at a wall blindfolded. It might be one of the toughest later-round positions to draft for.

I like this pick a hell of a lot more than I liked the Donald Washington pick. Washington pick was a gamble on a guy who you expected to one day mature into a good corner. He probably won't. Arenas is a guy who will probably play really well in a specialized nickel and dime role.

It was a pretty safe pick, in my opinion. I'm not stoked about it. But it certainly wasn't any kind of a failure.

[KC kid]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Drafting a CB in the second round is like throwing a dart at a wall blindfolded. It might be one of the toughest later-round positions to draft for.

I like this pick a hell of a lot more than I liked the Donald Washington pick. Washington pick was a gamble on a guy who you expected to one day mature into a good corner. He probably won't. Arenas is a guy who will probably play really well in a specialized nickel and dime role.

It was a pretty safe pick, in my opinion. I'm not stoked about it. But it certainly wasn't any kind of a failure.

I dont think this pick is a guaranteed bust. I do not love it at all though. I think I have a harder time swallowing it since we traded tony g for Arenas.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Drafting a CB in the second round is like throwing a dart at a wall blindfolded. It might be one of the toughest later-round positions to draft for.

I like this pick a hell of a lot more than I liked the Donald Washington pick. Washington pick was a gamble on a guy who you expected to one day mature into a good corner. He probably won't. Arenas is a guy who will probably play really well in a specialized nickel and dime role.

It was a pretty safe pick, in my opinion. I'm not stoked about it. But it certainly wasn't any kind of a failure.

Brandon Flowers, Rashean Mathis, Patrick Surtain, and Sam Madison come to mind pretty quickly.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't even think anyone hates McCluster, it's more that for our team there were better picks available. Guys with equal value to McCluster that play much more valuable positions.

But that's horseshit and you know it.

There's a HUGE difference between "value" today and value in two years.

Some of those guys that went lower will not live up to expectations because it happens every year.

The true qualifier will be if Pioli is right or wrong.

Not who they "could" have chosen.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

But that's horseshit and you know it.

There's a HUGE difference between "value" today and value in two years.

Some of those guys that went lower will not live up to expectations because it happens every year.

The true qualifier will be if Pioli is right or wrong.

Not who they "could" have chosen.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

But that's horseshit and you know it.

There's a HUGE difference between "value" today and value in two years.

Some of those guys that went lower will not live up to expectations because it happens every year.

The true qualifier will be if Pioli is right or wrong.

Not who they "could" have chosen.

I think the problem with the "could" factor is the fact that we are mad that the "could" would have been better players at more important positions.

Even if McCluster works out, or Arenas, or Moeaki, do they give you the same ROI that Clausen, Cody, Griffen, Graham, Williams, or any number of prospects would?

No.

So not only do you have the risk of uncertain players, you have a lesser potential positive return.

That's just ****ing foolish,and that's why they are poor picks.