Mayock said he "Loves" what KC has done in this draft

[Herzig]

Shocking...

[Lanning]

Originally Posted by TEX

You're not making sense - Tyson Jackson is a great reason not to trust him if you were really looking for a reason or were open to one. Again, I'm not "judging" anyone - just giving my opinion. It seems that you're confused as to the difference. It's also not logical to draft role players on a team that needs so many core players when said 2 team as 2 picks in round 2 to address the need for core players - Follow that logic?

Think of it this way, D-line is probably the slowest position to develop in the NFL. Not many come right in and succeed their rookie year (Brian Orakpo and Pat Williams are really the only 2 who had great years in their 1st year).

Look at Albert Haynesworth; his rookie year was very similar to Dorsey's and Jackson's. Time will tell how our 2 d-lineman do.

You are right when you said that it isn't logical to draft role players in the 2nd round. It also isn't logical to draft a player with supposedly major injury concerns (Sergio Kindle), or a guy who can't even find his belly button (Terrance Cody).

Pioli has sent a message to me with these picks, we are going to be quick and opponents are going to be scared with some of the speed that KC possesses (McCluster, Arenas, Berry). Overall I think the KC Chiefs have gotten a lot better. Still need to sign a NT and LB.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by notorious

It isn't too bad when this team is winning. We have lost for so long, it is hard to be optimistic.

This board has never been optimistic....even when we were winning.

And most have learned what guys like Jason Whitlock already knows.....the more cynical and critical you are, the more negative and relentless you are, the more publicity you generate for yourself.

mmaddog
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[CosmicPal]

Originally Posted by Lanning

Think of it this way, D-line is probably the slowest position to develop in the NFL. Not many come right in and succeed their rookie year (Brian Orakpo and Pat Williams are really the only 2 who had great years in their 1st year).

Look at Albert Haynesworth; his rookie year was very similar to Dorsey's and Jackson's. Time will tell how our 2 d-lineman do.

You are right when you said that it isn't logical to draft role players in the 2nd round. It also isn't logical to draft a player with supposedly major injury concerns (Sergio Kindle), or a guy who can't even find his belly button (Terrance Cody).

Pioli has sent a message to me with these picks, we are going to be quick and opponents are going to be scared with some of the speed that KC possesses (McCluster, Arenas, Berry). Overall I think the KC Chiefs have gotten a lot better. Still need to sign a NT and LB.

Good post.

[Epic Fail 007]

Originally Posted by Lanning

By listening to some of the comments I've read today on this site it seems that some either aren't KC fans or just insist on being negative.

The Chiefs had a nice draft. I'd give it a B+. Berry is going to be a stud. McCluster is going to be Darren Sproles 2.0. Arenas is going to be very dangerous as a kick returner. Asumoah will be a solid guard to replace Waters eventually, and that TE from Iowa looks to be a solid pass catching TE.

I know you guys will be upset to hear this but so far the Chiefs have had a pretty good draft.

i could not agree with you more

[crazycoffey]

Lanning for n00b of the year! I have always agreed with that sentiment. Some of you, Meccamists are just so negative all the time. You think you're being "real" but you're not. This isn't a bad draft, this team seems to be making good steps to a positive direction, I'm excited to continue watching that develop. I want to see these new guys in preseason games, and make notable progress by the halfway of the season. I want to be excited to watch the chiefs.

And I'm getting as tired of the overly negativity on this board as I was of King Carl's draft strategies. When I said this as a n00b, I was blasted for trying to "change CP" and "this place isn't for you" crap too Lanning. What a crock this place can serve sometimes. But make yourself comfortable and stay awhile.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Rausch

I think if we wanted a slot WR that could return we should have gone with Tate. Being that he already is a WR and all.

Think about that for a minute. Weis was his HC. We passed. Sends up a red flag to me.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Lanning

Apparently on Scott Pioli's board they were, and he has given me no reason not to trust him thus far. Yes, I know Tyson Jackson hasn't been the most popular pick as of late but not every solid NFL player is great immediately. Who knows, maybe Tyson Jackson will be better in 2010. He can only get better at this point.

I agree that this board is for opinions but can you at least support your opinions with logic? Here's what seems to be the common logic: "He can't play because he's skinny" "He's a midget" "He is to fragile" etc... Hey, some of this might be true, but who are you to judge. Until he proves he can't play in the NFL why can't we just step back and think of the glass half full? What if they do succeed? Huh???

Tyson Jackson can't get any worse... and you're using that as hope? Really?

I personally haven't proven I can't play in the NFL. Does that mean that the board should be hopeful that I join the team?

Blind hope is great and all... but this team burned away all that blind hope for me many many years ago. Blind hope is just a half step up from ignorance.

I'm a fan of this team. For better or worse. That doesn't require being positive about every little thing they do.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

McCluster wasn't a reach. Philly was about to nabe him. Arenas is a great returner and will be great matched up on a slot WR.

Oh God do you love EVERYTHING that fat **** does just on principal alone????

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Good job for the Chiefs so far. The team still has a long way to go, but this is a good step forward.

Oh great; YOU.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Tom Waddle on NFLN just said the Chiefs are a team that won 4 games last year, and they don't have the luxury of adding change of pace running backs to their roster in the 2nd round. Particularly when they already have one in JC. Fran Charles said they were going to line him up in the slot and Waddle chuckled and said "Uh, ooookay."

What a ****ing moron that guy is. It's obvious why he's not a GM.

[LetsSignRussell]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Tom Waddle on NFLN just said the Chiefs are a team that won 4 games last year, and they don't have the luxury of adding change of pace running backs to their roster in the 2nd round. Particularly when they already have one in JC. Fran Charles said they were going to line him up in the slot and Waddle chuckled and said "Uh, ooookay."

What a ****ing moron that guy is. It's obvious why he's not a GM.

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

Yep. Any speck of optimism is immediately shot down by the prevailing negativity on this board.

YOU ARE WRONG ST00PID N00B!

[WildTurkey]

Originally Posted by Lanning

Think of it this way, D-line is probably the slowest position to develop in the NFL. Not many come right in and succeed their rookie year (Brian Orakpo and Pat Williams are really the only 2 who had great years in their 1st year).

Look at Albert Haynesworth; his rookie year was very similar to Dorsey's and Jackson's. Time will tell how our 2 d-lineman do.

You are right when you said that it isn't logical to draft role players in the 2nd round. It also isn't logical to draft a player with supposedly major injury concerns (Sergio Kindle), or a guy who can't even find his belly button (Terrance Cody).

Pioli has sent a message to me with these picks, we are going to be quick and opponents are going to be scared with some of the speed that KC possesses (McCluster, Arenas, Berry). Overall I think the KC Chiefs have gotten a lot better. Still need to sign a NT and LB.

wow someone on this board with a well thought out reasonable opinion..... rep

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Tom Waddle on NFLN just said the Chiefs are a team that won 4 games last year, and they don't have the luxury of adding change of pace running backs to their roster in the 2nd round. Particularly when they already have one in JC. Fran Charles said they were going to line him up in the slot and Waddle chuckled and said "Uh, ooookay."

What a ****ing moron that guy is. It's obvious why he's not a GM.

Waddle is correct. We totally blew the 2nd round based on the shape of the team. We need core players not role players. Sorry - just can't buy into any other logic.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by TEX

Waddle is correct. We totally blew the 2nd round based on the shape of the team. We need core players not role players. Sorry - just can't buy into any other logic.

I was being sarcastic. I blew up when we made that pick. What's done is done, but everyone was saying how everyone thinks our draft was an A grade. Well, Waddle is the first person I've heard address it and he was laughing his ass off at us.