CBS Sports Article On KS's 2nd Rd picks

[Cosmos]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/s...overlist_photo

Sorry if a repost.

(KC's 2nd rd picks)

[Ralphy Boy]

All in all, I give the draft a D. If not for Berry, it would be an F-.

I'm grading on a curve, which Pioli set last year when he showed it was entirely possible to piss away a top 5 pick.

We had absolutely NO room for error. Our team won 4 games. We drafted two role players in the 2nd round. TWO!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't care how good of role players they are, that is a FAILURE on the part of management. You simply cannot fuk up those picks when you have so many needs.

Both are too undersized to contribute at their respective position on an every down basis. Its as if Pioli, Haley, Weis & Crennel all created their checklist and simply forgot to include "Is a 3 down player".

Are we really to believe that Berry & Arenas improved our 31st ranked run defense?

We gave up 4.7 yards per rush. Teams attempted to run on us 531 times, thats the 3rd highest # of attempts and the 2nd highest average allowed.

We finished 31st in the league in sacks.

How would either of them help improve that total?

I see nothing to believe that we can be any better than we were last season on defense.

This really looks like a draft to help Cassel and I have no problem with trying to help him. He clearly needs it, but to pass on obvious problem areas is just stupid. They could have moved up for a defensive player, just like they did for Moeaki.

Why you give up so much for an injury prone TE who has proven so little in college I have no idea.

I'm not condemning the players, they might be great, but unless we address our lack of a NT and find a pass rush before the start of the season, we will suck again this year.



I had hopes for this draft going into it because Pioli did do a good job of addressing the offensive line issues prior to the draft but to fail to address what really are HUGE concerns just doesn't make a bit of f-ing sense to me.

[penchief]

Originally Posted by TEX

All he has to do is read his own take of " and if the Chiefs' defense can stop anyone, that will come in handy." to find the error with his analysis. Made way more sense to use BOTH # 2's to make sure the Chiefs could stop someone before they used the picks on role players. Just plain dumb.

Picking the best blitzing DB in the draft and someone whose skills make him an effective guy to cover the slot receiver just might help stop someone, IMHO.

[penchief]

Originally Posted by Micjones

I don't question whether or not Arenas and McCluster can play.
I'm concerned that they drafted roleplayers with #2's that should've gone towards impact defensive STARTERS.

McCluster could be one hell of a Chief for all we know...
But he won't help us stop the run. And that's more important, I think, than what he can potentially do as a utility offensive player.

He'll help put a lot of pressure on opposing defenses which will cut down on the three and outs. Which will cut down on the length of time that the defense is on the field. Which will help out a lot, IMHO.

Seems like the defense was always under the gun even when they got stops because they were always right back out on the field.

[penchief]

Originally Posted by Laz

i didn't list JUST CODY ... i listed a dozen viable players we could take are highly talented and filled a need.

i sick and tired of dealing with incompetent GM's (Peterson,Dayton Moore)

not winning is one thing ... doing stupid shit like drafting Dante Hall and Benny Sapp in the 2nd round of this year's draft is another thing.

The Ravens can afford to miss on Cody if he turns out to be what he appears to be. A lazy ass slob who has woman tits because he has no pride.

And I don't want to hear about how nose tackles are supposed to be fat. Fat is one thing but flabby sagging flesh is completely another. There is no way that you can look at Cody and feel confident in his ability to motivate himself.

[Mecca]

You're funny, I'm sure Cody is going to just be a bum seeing as one of the very best drafting teams in the entire league took him.

The Ravens taking Cody means he'll be Ted Washington.

[Lanning]

Originally Posted by Laz

ok ... the n00b just said i didn't know the picks and i provide idiotic rants


i gave the little bastard a chance

Wasn't talking about you personally but if you want to cry about it. Go ahead

[penchief]

Originally Posted by Mecca

You're funny, I'm sure Cody is going to just be a bum seeing as one of the very best drafting teams in the entire league took him.

The Ravens taking Cody means he'll be Ted Washington.

It means they're willing to take that risk where they did. According to you he is a sure thing even though everybody passed over him at least once. Must be there are some questions.

I applaud the chiefs for not taking a leap of faith on a guy who has exhibited absolutely no motivation to take care of himself. Dude has to have zero self-awareness or pride to let himself show up at the combine in the disgusting shape he was in.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by penchief

The Ravens can afford to miss on Cody if he turns out to be what he appears to be. A lazy ass slob who has woman tits because he has no pride.

And I don't want to hear about how nose tackles are supposed to be fat. Fat is one thing but flabby sagging flesh is completely another. There is no way that you can look at Cody and feel confident in his ability to motivate himself.

I didn't just list cody ........

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by H5N1

just one question: what the **** is KS? kansas shitty?

No shit, and I could give two ****s if ANY media hack is pleased with our day 2 McCluster****.

[ForeverChiefs58]

Originally Posted by penchief

It means they're willing to take that risk where they did. According to you he is a sure thing even though everybody passed over him at least once. Must be there are some questions.

I applaud the chiefs for not taking a leap of faith on a guy who has exhibited absolutely no motivation to take care of himself. Dude has to have zero self-awareness or pride to let himself show up at the combine in the disgusting shape he was in.

Really? He lost 30 pounds in a couple months? Thats better than a lot of our star players who had a hard time doing it.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by el borracho

The complaint is not that we missed a NT, the complaint is that we took role players who will not spend much time on the field when we could have taken starters. Linebackers, NT, offensive linemen, starting WR all would have made more sense because they would get more time on the field and, therefore, could have made a larger contribution. Hell, even Mays (the safety) would have made more sense than a project slot receiver who weighs less than most high schoolers.

Exactly. I've said something very similiar yesterday. Our defense is attrocious and we pick 2rd stringers, instead of STARTERS, with premium picks.

[The Franchise]

Yeah.....I'm so glad that we have these two guys instead of Kindle and Cody....you know....two players that filled voids in our defense and were actually talented.

I'll even accept the McCluster pick if you get Cody at #50....but a ****ing nickle back who returns kicks? **** that shit.

[mrbiggz]

How many gm's and coaches wish they didn't pass on Deshawn Jackson and Jeremy Maclin over the last two drafts? I'd take them both over Dorsey and Jackson in a heart beat. It says a lot if Philly wanted Mccluster and we got him.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

All in all, I give the draft a D. If not for Berry, it would be an F-.

I'm grading on a curve, which Pioli set last year when he showed it was entirely possible to piss away a top 5 pick.

We had absolutely NO room for error. Our team won 4 games. We drafted two role players in the 2nd round. TWO!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't care how good of role players they are, that is a FAILURE on the part of management. You simply cannot fuk up those picks when you have so many needs.

Both are too undersized to contribute at their respective position on an every down basis. Its as if Pioli, Haley, Weis & Crennel all created their checklist and simply forgot to include "Is a 3 down player".

Are we really to believe that Berry & Arenas improved our 31st ranked run defense?

We gave up 4.7 yards per rush. Teams attempted to run on us 531 times, thats the 3rd highest # of attempts and the 2nd highest average allowed.

We finished 31st in the league in sacks.

How would either of them help improve that total?

I see nothing to believe that we can be any better than we were last season on defense.

This really looks like a draft to help Cassel and I have no problem with trying to help him. He clearly needs it, but to pass on obvious problem areas is just stupid. They could have moved up for a defensive player, just like they did for Moeaki.

Why you give up so much for an injury prone TE who has proven so little in college I have no idea.

I'm not condemning the players, they might be great, but unless we address our lack of a NT and find a pass rush before the start of the season, we will suck again this year.



I had hopes for this draft going into it because Pioli did do a good job of addressing the offensive line issues prior to the draft but to fail to address what really are HUGE concerns just doesn't make a bit of f-ing sense to me.

I completely agree. More unbelievable when you consider how Pioli ignored the OL last year. No way in hell to justify ignoring the front 7 this year - especially with two 2nd round picks. It doesn't matter the GM - it all seems exactly lke the past...

[penchief]

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58

Really? He lost 30 pounds in a couple months? Thats better than a lot of our star players who had a hard time doing it.

What happens when he gets paid? I'm sure his agent got into his ear after his sorry display at the combine. Anyone who was self-motivated wouldn't have shown up at the combine looking like a flabby piece of shit.