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Old 04-25-2010, 09:44 AM   #1
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he also said:

"Kindle and Cody were steals." for the ravens


True Fans spent yesterday swearing they were bad picks and thank god we didn't take them....so i'm guessing they will all now admit to being wrong, since Gosselin has spoken
I don't understand the obsession with Kindle/Cody. Would they have been good picks at that spot? Yeah. But both come with a lot of risk. Kindle with his injured legs and Cody with his weight/motivation issues. There's a reason both fell as low as they did.
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:47 AM   #2
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I don't understand the obsession with Kindle/Cody. Would they have been good picks at that spot? Yeah. But both come with a lot of risk. Kindle with his injured legs and Cody with his weight/motivation issues. There's a reason both fell as low as they did.
But Gosselin gave our draft a good grade, and everyone says they'll take his words more than any one else, so, you can't just pick and choose which of his words carry more weight.
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:50 AM   #3
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But Gosselin gave our draft a good grade, and everyone says they'll take his words more than any one else, so, you can't just pick and choose which of his words carry more weight.
I really like Gosselin.

I liked Kindle. I liked Cody. And I really liked Clausen. Either of them would have done fine.

But Gosselin also says we got good value in McCluster and Arenas. I'm so-so on the Arenas pick. I'm just trying to understand why so many people are pissed off to all hell that this was such a missed pick when most of the draft experts like Gosselin seem to love it.
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:51 AM   #4
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I really like Gosselin.

I liked Kindle. I liked Cody. And I really liked Clausen. Either of them would have done fine.

But Gosselin also says we got good value in McCluster and Arenas. I'm so-so on the Arenas pick. I'm just trying to understand why so many people are pissed off to all hell that this was such a missed pick when most of the draft experts like Gosselin seem to love it.
And by the way, since the claim was that Gosselin has great sources, I think the point to be made is that if Gosselin rated the draft as an A+, that's a sign that he's saying "based on what I know from my sources, this was the right spot to take these guys."
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:55 AM   #5
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And by the way, since the claim was that Gosselin has great sources, I think the point to be made is that if Gosselin rated the draft as an A+, that's a sign that he's saying "based on what I know from my sources, this was the right spot to take these guys."
He has great sources for his final mock.

Does he use these sources to write his grades?
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Old 04-25-2010, 11:57 AM   #6
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He has great sources for his final mock.

Does he use these sources to write his grades?
I believe he has good enough sources that he's extremely well qualified to talk about whether a pick was a reach or not. And if McCluster was a reach, he would have called the Chiefs out on it and they wouldn't have gotten an A+.

Just my thought. A lot of people have implied that McCluster was a reach or isn't worth a high second rounder. And my sense from Gosselin's grade is that he has sources that believe he was picked at just the right spot.

And if you pick a guy at the right spot to play a position you currently don't have, then that's pretty much taking a need-based BPA. And there's nothing wrong with that.
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Old 04-25-2010, 12:10 PM   #7
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I believe he has good enough sources that he's extremely well qualified to talk about whether a pick was a reach or not. And if McCluster was a reach, he would have called the Chiefs out on it and they wouldn't have gotten an A+.

Just my thought. A lot of people have implied that McCluster was a reach or isn't worth a high second rounder. And my sense from Gosselin's grade is that he has sources that believe he was picked at just the right spot.

And if you pick a guy at the right spot to play a position you currently don't have, then that's pretty much taking a need-based BPA. And there's nothing wrong with that.
I don't question McCluster's place in this draft in terms of how high he was taken.

I question the wisdom of taking player that I see as a part time player by the Chiefs.

But I'm done with this.

I'll wait to see how things play out and hope that these guys prove to be the answeres that you and others think they are.
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:55 AM   #8
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But Gosselin gave our draft a good grade, and everyone says they'll take his words more than any one else, so, you can't just pick and choose which of his words carry more weight.
That's silly.
There are thousands of people in the world who's opinion I value more than others(in any number of topics), but also pick and choose what I agree and disagree with.
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That's silly.
There are thousands of people in the world who's opinion I value more than others(in any number of topics), but also pick and choose what I agree and disagree with.
Thank you.

You simply proved TC's point.
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But Gosselin gave our draft a good grade, and everyone says they'll take his words more than any one else, so, you can't just pick and choose which of his words carry more weight.
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