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Old 04-25-2010, 05:19 PM   #1
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He can't, without taking snaps away from Charles, Chambers or Moeaki.

You can't run 3-wide AND 2 TE the majority of the time. It has to be one or the other.
I'd like someone to explain to me how the Chiefs are going to run two tight end sets without having two tight ends that can actually block and catch?
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Old 04-25-2010, 05:23 PM   #2
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I'd like someone to explain to me how the Chiefs are going to run two tight end sets without having two tight ends that can actually block and catch?
To be fair ytou dont need two TE's that can block and catch to run 2TE sets..You need one who can block, and one that can block / catch..
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Old 04-25-2010, 05:28 PM   #3
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To be fair ytou dont need two TE's that can block and catch to run 2TE sets..You need one who can block, and one that can block / catch..
Let us know when the Chiefs have either.



Look, I like the Moeaki pick because there's no one currently on the roster with his skillset when healthy. But I'm not about to proclaim him as a great player or a bust at this point in time.

The Chiefs really don't have a good blocking tight end on the roster. Despite the size of both Cottam and Pope, neither are good blockers. O'Connell needs to make a huge jump from last year, otherwise, he won't even have a roster spot.

So I think we're getting carried away with the notion of two tight end sets.
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Old 04-25-2010, 05:33 PM   #4
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So I think we're getting carried away with the notion of two tight end sets.
I don't think it will happen frequently, but two TE sets and 2 WR sets will happen enough that will make your idea of McCluster seeing 67% of snaps on downs 1-3 impossible.

As I said, I would ****ign love to be wrong, because he would pretty much have to be a rookie sensation for this to happen over 16 weeks..meaning that even with the 36th pick overall he was a hell of a pick. I would love that, I just think the odds are grim.
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Old 04-25-2010, 06:12 PM   #5
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I don't think it will happen frequently, but two TE sets and 2 WR sets will happen enough that will make your idea of McCluster seeing 67% of snaps on downs 1-3 impossible.

As I said, I would ****ign love to be wrong, because he would pretty much have to be a rookie sensation for this to happen over 16 weeks..meaning that even with the 36th pick overall he was a hell of a pick. I would love that, I just think the odds are grim.
With the 36th pick of this particular draft, I'd be very surprised and upset if McCluster wasnt a gigantic contributor offensively to this team, especially watching DeSean Jackson, Maclin and Harvin contribute immediately to their respective teams.

If you're going to take a guy that high with so many needs elsewhere, if he doesn't contribute 50%, 55%, 60% or whatever of the time, you've made a mistake with that pick.

I think they took him there because that's what they expect.
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Old 04-25-2010, 06:18 PM   #6
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With the 36th pick of this particular draft, I'd be very surprised and upset if McCluster wasnt a gigantic contributor offensively to this team.....(snip)

If you're going to take a guy that high with so many needs elsewhere, if he doesn't contribute 50%, 55%, 60% or whatever of the time, you've made a mistake with that pick.
I added the bold and underline for drama LOL...

I agree 100% with you. I could not agree more....(Which I guess is redundant but what the heck!)

The 36th pick over all needs to be someone who contributes, alot. I think it was a poor pick, because I don't see that happening. You are giving me hope that I could be wrong though, and I would love, love LOVE to be wrong. There will be no way of knowing whether or not he was worth #36 for sure until later in the season for sure....to see what he contributes and how much he plays.

There is also the size factor which does play a role in durability in my mind..Will he be able to take a lot of punishment if he plays as much you and I want him to...Will he be able to take NFL hits and keep on ticking if he plays as much as you and I need him to, to justify his value at #36.

Again, this can't be known until later in his career, but I think there were better ways to go that were less of a risk..and less 'gimmicky.'
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Old 04-25-2010, 06:22 PM   #7
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I added the bold and underline for drama LOL...

I agree 100% with you. I could not agree more....(Which I guess is redundant but what the heck!)

The 36th pick over all needs to be someone who contributes, alot. I think it was a poor pick, because I don't see that happening. You are giving me hope that I could be wrong though, and I would love, love LOVE to be wrong. There will be no way of knowing whether or not he was worth #36 for sure until later in the season for sure....to see what he contributes and how much he plays.

There is also the size factor which does play a role in durability in my mind..Will he be able to take a lot of punishment if he plays as much you and I want him to...Will he be able to take NFL hits and keep on ticking if he plays as much as you and I need him to, to justify his value at #36.

Again, this can't be known until later in his career, but I think there were better ways to go that were less of a risk..and less 'gimmicky.'
When it comes to projecting players from college to the NFL, you're going to be correct far more often than not if you project them to fail or not live up to expectations.

I hope that I'm not wrong in projecting him to be an immediate contributor. I'd have to think that Charlie Weis and Todd Haley had an enormous amount of input on this pick, especially since they passed over Golden Tate, so that gives me hope that he'll be a winning player.

Time will tell but I'm certainly not "down" on the selection.
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