Rick Gosselin draft grade: Chiefs get A+

[milkman]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Levitre was taken in the second, so he doesn't count. Wood was a guard, Meredith was picked up on waivers from GB and Bell might be good someday.

None of those guys were particularly special and I think it's safe to say (especially in the case of Meredith, since they had a chance to claim him) that the Chiefs didn't like any of them.

And as I mentioned earlier, I'd take Asamoah over any of them.

It's like the linebacker thing this year: I don't think that any of the guys available at #36 or #50 were "special" players, just good prospects.

We aren't talking about who Pioli would have picked, we are talking about guys that were in last years draft that were passed that would have helped.

I couldn't remember what rounds any of these guys were taken, I simply named guys that would have helped this O-Line, regardless of what Pioli might have done.

Were they special?
No.

Were they pretty good?
Yes.

And who the hell was Pioli going to pick up on waivers?

Leaves falling from the ****ing tree.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by milkman

We aren't talking about who Pioli would have picked, we are talking about guys that were in last years draft that were passed that would have helped.

I couldn't remember what rounds any of these guys were taken, I simply named guys that would have helped this O-Line, regardless of what Pioli might have done.

Were they special?
No.

Were they pretty good?
Yes.

And who the hell was Pioli going to pick up on waivers?

Leaves falling from the ****ing tree.

No, I understand what you're saying. But Mecca said that Pioli did the same think as last year, ignoring the "strength" of the draft, this year drafting offense instead of defense. Last year, he drafted defense instead of offense (in this case, Mecca specifically stated offensive line).

What I'm saying is that last year's class that was touted as being so great, really wasn't "great" from rounds 3-7. Urbick's a failure in Pittsburgh. Very few of the later picks are anything other than just "guys", nothing the Chiefs (or us as fans) should regret they passed on.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, I understand what you're saying. But Mecca said that Pioli did the same think as last year, ignoring the "strength" of the draft, this year drafting offense instead of defense. Last year, he drafted defense instead of offense (in this case, Mecca specifically stated offensive line).

What I'm saying is that last year's class that was touted as being so great, really wasn't "great" from rounds 3-7. Urbick's a failure in Pittsburgh. Very few of the later picks are anything other than just "guys", nothing the Chiefs (or us as fans) should regret they passed on.

A lot of the guys that many of us wanted to draft on the O-Line went to teams that had solid O-Lines already, so it's unfair to say that we should regret passing on them, becuase we had shit.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by milkman

A lot of the guys that many of us wanted to draft on the O-Line went to teams that had solid O-Lines already, so it's unfair to say that we should regret passing on them, becuase we had shit.

Hey, I was on that bandwagon as well.

I'm just admitting that while the Chiefs did have serious needs along the offensive line, one year later, it doesn't seem like the Chiefs were passing up sure-fire Pro Bowlers in rounds 3-7.

Which also makes it likely the all of these defensive players available won't be sure-fire Pro Bowlers as well.

You can scout the shit out of these guys for 8 years, from high school to college and at the end of the day, be wrong about how they project to the NFL.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Hey, I was on that bandwagon as well.

I'm just admitting that while the Chiefs did have serious needs along the offensive line, one year later, it doesn't seem like the Chiefs were passing up sure-fire Pro Bowlers in rounds 3-7.

Which also makes it likely the all of these defensive players available won't be sure-fire Pro Bowlers as well.

You can scout the shit out of these guys for 8 years, from high school to college and at the end of the day, be wrong about how they project to the NFL.

At the end of the day, regardless of how any of these guys pan out, the Chiefs didn't try.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by milkman

At the end of the day, regardless of how any of these guys pan out, the Chiefs didn't try.

With the exception of Colin Brown, you're right. But I don't think they could have set their "plan" in motion if they had taken more offensive lineman.

I'm not saying I agree with it, but that's the reality.

I'm still shocked that they didn't address the center position this year but apparently, they feel they can count on Weigman for a full season.

I hope they're right...

[milkman]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

With the exception of Colin Brown, you're right. But I don't think they could have set their "plan" in motion if they had taken more offensive lineman.

I'm not saying I agree with it, but that's the reality.

I'm still shocked that they didn't address the center position this year but apparently, they feel they can count on Weigman for a full season.

I hope they're right...

I'm hoping they saw something in Daryl Harris when they started working him out at center that tells them he might have some potential to be the long term answer there with some work, and that's the reason they didn't address it.

I just can't fathom not addressing it with an aging Weigman and Niswanger as your only options.