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Old 04-25-2010, 08:04 AM  
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Rick Gosselin draft grade: Chiefs get A+

I was pretty down on this draft outside of Berry but maybe I am just stupid.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.3f4b050.html

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GRADE: A+
The Chiefs drafted the NFL defensive rookie of the year in Berry – and a slew of other good players. Arenas was the best returner in the draft, and McCluster will give the AFC matchup problems at both running back and receiver.
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Old 04-25-2010, 07:35 PM   #526
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And Dane, the only TE in this draft with gigantic upside was Jimmy Graham, not Tony Moeaki.
time will tell.

I disagree.

I have seen far more of the kid than most here and I think I am pretty objective. By mid season, there will be multiple threads talking about how they are glad we did what we did to get this kid.

He is a better version of Visante Shiancoe IMO.

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In case you aren't aware, 40 times do matter for defensive backs, build the slowest team in football, watch what happens to you.
well, in this scheme the corners ability to cover deep in one on one coverage is minimized. Especially with Berry roaming back there. Quickness, preperation, tackling and ability to diagnose what is going on within the confines of the play are qualities that are definitely a premium over long speed.

I think he is a elite returner that should be a solid nickle corner.

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Dorsey missed one game.

And IIRC, the Ravens ran for over 200 yards in the opener.
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People are comparing him to Welker, FFS. Wes Welker is a legit slot WR.

This guy is a RB we're converting to slot WR.
Id like to throw out there that Dexter has played wide out in previous years extensively. Not lined up in the backfield and moved in motion, was a receiver.

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You know, you've once again lost all of your credibility with me.

You ****ing talk in absolutes then when challenged, ask one of your stupid, passive-aggressive questions.

I'll ask you once again, which offensive lineman from rounds 3-7 did the Chiefs pass on, that would have made such a HUGE contribution.

I already admitted I was wrong about Urbick.

What the **** is wrong with you not being able to admit when you're wrong or not being able to back up your SHIT?

Hootie's right: You're a ****ing PHONY.

And I've just joined in with the other 11,997 Chiefsplanet members in laughing at YOU.
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Old 04-25-2010, 07:37 PM   #527
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I don't even hate Arenas but that other safety they took, I can't fathom what that guys going to do other than play special teams.

I don't generally pimp 40's but I do think they matter for DB's and WR's.
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Old 04-25-2010, 07:46 PM   #528
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I don't even hate Arenas but that other safety they took, I can't fathom what that guys going to do other than play special teams.

I don't generally pimp 40's but I do think they matter for DB's and WR's.
Exactly, just ask brandon flowers...oh wait
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Old 04-25-2010, 07:46 PM   #529
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He ran a 4.5 not a 4.8
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Old 04-25-2010, 07:48 PM   #530
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He ran a 4.5 not a 4.8
Safetes are slower than DB's you fukcing idjiot
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Old 04-25-2010, 07:49 PM   #531
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Safeties are DB's...say safeties are slower than CB's, it makes more sense.
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Old 04-25-2010, 07:59 PM   #532
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Jamaal Charles and Dexter McCluster on the field at the same time is a scary ****ing thought for any defensive coordinator....
Denver is already having nightmares.
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Old 04-25-2010, 08:04 PM   #533
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He ran a 4.5 not a 4.8
who ran a 4.8?
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Old 04-25-2010, 08:04 PM   #534
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I bet Kendrick Lewis is as fast as Darren Sharper.
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Old 04-25-2010, 08:07 PM   #535
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The safety the Chiefs picked he ran a 4.72 and a 4.81, those are very poor times.

Ok Sharper was not that slow when he was a young player and generally an older player can use his brain to get by his speed declining, this guy might be a nice special teams guy I can't really see much more than that.
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Old 04-25-2010, 08:13 PM   #536
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The safety the Chiefs picked he ran a 4.72 and a 4.81, those are very poor times.

Ok Sharper was not that slow when he was a young player and generally an older player can use his brain to get by his speed declining, this guy might be a nice special teams guy I can't really see much more than that.
wow so now you are reduced to bitching about a 5th rd pick?
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Old 04-25-2010, 08:18 PM   #537
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The safety the Chiefs picked he ran a 4.72 and a 4.81, those are very poor times.

Ok Sharper was not that slow when he was a young player and generally an older player can use his brain to get by his speed declining, this guy might be a nice special teams guy I can't really see much more than that.
We'll have to see. I don't know anything about the kid. I've seen a few scouting reports that say that he plays faster than he's timed and that while he doesn't have elite speed, it didn't look like it was a big issue. But no idea how reliable any of it is. I think no matter what, anyone you take at that area of the draft can be somewhat of a crapshoot.
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Old 04-25-2010, 08:19 PM   #538
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I was pretty down on this draft outside of Berry but maybe I am just stupid.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.3f4b050.html

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GRADE: A+
The Chiefs drafted the NFL defensive rookie of the year in Berry – and a slew of other good players. Arenas was the best returner in the draft, and McCluster will give the AFC matchup problems at both running back and receiver.
Yeah Arenas is a much better returner than Spiller. Gie me a break.
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Old 04-25-2010, 08:22 PM   #539
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Yeah Arenas is a much better returner than Spiller. Gie me a break.
If you look at the numbers?

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Yep.

I hate this team, that's why I've spent over $25k of my hard-earned money to attend games, at home and on the road, over just the last 7 years alone.
I'm absolutely shocked to see that this post was ignored.
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