Chiefs Rick Gosselin draft grade: Chiefs get A+ - Page 44

**dirk digler** · 04-25-2010, 08:04 AM

I was pretty down on this draft outside of Berry but maybe I am just stupid.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.3f4b050.html

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GRADE: A+

The Chiefs drafted the NFL defensive rookie of the year in Berry – and a slew of other good players. Arenas was the best returner in the draft, and McCluster will give the AFC matchup problems at both running back and receiver.

Just Passin' By · 04-25-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The people who have been questioning this teams personnel decisions the last several years are wrong? 10 wins in 3 seasons and those griping are the ones not in touch with reality?

The jackholes who've been bitching about every pick that doesn't suit their agenda to a tee, yes.

Whether they, and apparently you, care to admit it or not, they don't know what the hell they're talking about. All the bitching about offensive linemen not getting drafted by the Chiefs last year should have made that abundantly clear when those same O-linemen accomplished essentially nothing on the field. Instead, those same ass clowns who ignore that lack of production from the offensive linemen rookies go bashing on the Chiefs because the rookies Pioli chose didn't all become Pro Bowlers in their first year.

aturnis · 04-25-2010, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

I just don't see it, personally. I mean 67% is way too high to be realistic IMO. Also 'constantly' I guess is subjective...but I see him as more of a situational player. 3rd downs, maybe some second & longs, and as a slot receiver...I just dont see it adding up to a 36th overall this season for this team...

I really hope I am wrong though. (I hope he has enough talent and durability to do more).

This is the percentage of plays per game New England plays Wes Welker. While I don't expect to see McCluster used quite as often. This does show that 50-60% of offensive snaps does make it realistic. Especially beings he seems to be a good blocker for a guy his size.

Hootie · 04-25-2010, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Hell, I'll give you an out.

Start a poll asking if I'm one of the more knowledgeable posters on the forum. Or if my takes are respected.

Then you have nothing to do with it, other than leaving when you're proven wrong.

You made the claim, coward. Back it up.

are you not getting the point?

Seriously...

are you stupid?

IT IS A POPULARITY CONTEST...THAT'S ALL IT WOULD BE...

Is that so tough to understand?

**CosmicPal** · 04-25-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Does every team in the league NEED a OLB?

He fell approximately 10 spots. Did he fit the needs of any of those teams?

Do any of those teams even play a 34?

Let's put it this way: Had the Chiefs drafted Sergio Kindle in the 2nd round, this board, particularly YOU, Mecca, and Hamas would all be crying foul because Kindle is a serious injury risk- an injury that PALES in comparison to Moecki's minor injuries.

The fact is, had we drafted him you guys would be dissing the pick because you're NEVER, EVER content with anything the front office and coaching staff do. You guys just *****ing whine like a teenage girl with a bad haircut. It's the same shit with you guys every year. It gets ****ing old.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-25-2010, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No one is suggesting that the Chiefs are a playoff team in 2011, let alone, 2010.

This team has a long, long way to go before they're consistently competing in the playoffs, regardless of whether or not Pioli's the GM or not.

Funny, I specifically recall you being in the group of people that expected a playoff caliber team by the 3rd year.

That group generally was expecting 4-12, 8-8, then a playoff run.

If you're backing down from that, fine. But make sure you explain why you're doing so.

My guess is because Scott Pioli hasn't done his job to the level he was expected.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-25-2010, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicPal

Let's put it this way: Had the Chiefs drafted Sergio Kindle in the 2nd round, this board, particularly YOU, Mecca, and Hamas would all be crying foul because Kindle is a serious injury risk- an injury that PALES in comparison to Moecki's minor injuries.

The fact is, had we drafted him you guys would be dissing the pick because you're NEVER, EVER content with anything the front office and coaching staff do. You guys just *****ing whine like a teenage girl with a bad haircut. It's the same shit with you guys every year. It gets ****ing old.

Is that why I named 8-10 guys worthy of that spot? Kindle being one of them?

I expect this shit from Hootie, but you're better than this.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-25-2010, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Funny, I specifically recall you being in the group of people that expected a playoff caliber team by the 3rd year.

That group generally was expecting 4-12, 8-8, then a playoff run.

If you're backing down from that, fine. But make sure you explain why you're doing so.

My guess is because Scott Pioli hasn't done his job to the level he was expected.

No, I explained here, just in case you missed it:

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think I have this whole thing figured out.

I had no idea what Pioli was doing last year. He drafted guys for the 3-4 and brought in 40 players off the street that were mostly familiar with the "system", their way of doing things. I didn't agree with it, but I'm beginning to understand their philosophy.

First and foremost, they're looking for leaders, smart instinctive football players and guys that will be at the core of this team for a decade. Guys that will be willing to take a little less when free agency comes around, just to be part of the "system" that will be in place. I think this draft solidifies this notion.

I also believe that Pioli knows he can't find playmakers in free agency, so he drafted playmakers this year. Berry, McClusters, Arenas and Moeaki all have the potential to be explosive, game changing playmakers. Asamoah could be a 10 year starter, maybe longer. Lewis plays much faster on film than his 40 time indicates because he's got natural football instincts, same with Sheffield.

I think the Chiefs passed on fat**** Cody and broke Kindle (along with a few other defensive players) because they honestly believe that Jackson, Magee, Dorsey, Mays, Belcher and Studebaker make a big leap from year one in their defense to year two. Personally, I don't disagree.

I also think that it will be much easier for them to grab an NT and a few linebackers at cutdown than for them to find a dynamic WR/RB, CB/Returner and a TE in the mold of Dallas Clark.

What's become extremely clear is that Pioli has five full years in which to build this franchise in his image and that he's under no pressure to win now. With that being the case, he's going to build it exactly as he sees fit, regardless of what anyone else thinks or believes.

Only time will tell if he's successful or not, but I for one am in no way, shape or form, disappointed with this draft because he got playmakers and instinctual, productive football players that will help this team for a long time.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-25-2010, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

are you not getting the point?

Seriously...

are you stupid?

IT IS A POPULARITY CONTEST...THAT'S ALL IT WOULD BE...

Is that so tough to understand?

So now it's a popularity contest when you have nothing to do with it?

I'm in a popularity contest with myself.

You're ****ing pathetic.

tonyetony · 04-25-2010, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Hell, I'll give you an out.

Start a poll asking if I'm one of the more knowledgeable posters on the forum. Or if my takes are respected.

Then you have nothing to do with it, other than leaving when you're proven wrong.

You made the claim, coward. Back it up.

If you're trying to tie your self worth to the few posters that actually like you on this board you are PATHETIC. I think you've become a better poster the last 6 months but please don't overrate yourself it could be embarrassing for you.

Go ahead and start the poll and if you lose will you actually leave this time?

**CosmicPal** · 04-25-2010, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Is that why I named 8-10 guys worthy of that spot? Kindle being one of them?

I expect this shit from Hootie, but you're better than this.

My emphasis was on those who were desirous of getting Kindle with the pick.

If you named 8-10 guys in an earlier post, I didn't see it. My apologies.

-King- · 04-25-2010, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Oh, ok.

Damnit!

What a shitty draft we had! Only columnists like our draft...****! If only we hired Mecca/OTWP and Hamas Jenkins to do our drafts for us!

Looking at Hamas' 2009 CP mock draft picks, I have to say that he severely overestimates his draft knowledge.
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philfree · 04-25-2010, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

If you're trying to tie your self worth to the few posters that actually like you on this board you are PATHETIC. I think you've become a better poster the last 6 months but please don't overrate yourself it could be embarrassing for you.

Go ahead and start the poll and if you lose will you actually leave this time?

LOL Ghey is ghey....

PhilFree

RedThat · 04-25-2010, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

I understand where OTW is coming from on this. But, these were special talents with good character. The only other guys left were either guys with question marks or average good character kids.

While these may look like luxury picks... they are guys that are special. Not just bodies to fill the roster and guys that make an impact as soon as they get on the field.

I think the Chiefs played the draft perfectly.

Me too. I must admit I like what Scott Pioli is doing.

I think he is focusing towards building a better culture in the locker room and at the same time he is adding players with playmaking ability. Thats impressive right there.

*As far as the luxury picks go, I don't exactly think of those picks as luxury picks mainly because I feel both McCluster and Arenas will provide versatility to this team and will improve this team in more ways than one.

Hootie · 04-25-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So now it's a popularity contest when you have nothing to do with it?

I'm in a popularity contest with myself.

You're ****ing pathetic.

I just think it's funny that you and your buddies get so worked up over this stuff when you are just cherrypicking this shit in the first place...and clearly the people you are cherrypicking it from don't know jackshit...just like you, just like me...

Walter Football...

whoever runs that site is more pathetic than mecca...and mecca is like 30, has never had a job, and lives at home

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-25-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

That goes both ways. The drafturbaters here shout down and insult anyone that dares disagree with them.

No, we shout down and insult people that don't ****ing read, and then inaccurately post bullshit about what they "think" we are saying.

I was just accused of seing no value in the Asomoah pick, when I've done nothing but praise the pick all ****ing weekend.

Forgive me if I get pissed off when people sling bullshit - that they KNOW goes against what is posted here in black and white - just to troll.

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