Chiefs Rick Gosselin draft grade: Chiefs get A+ - Page 47

**dirk digler** · 04-25-2010, 08:04 AM

I was pretty down on this draft outside of Berry but maybe I am just stupid.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.3f4b050.html

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GRADE: A+

The Chiefs drafted the NFL defensive rookie of the year in Berry – and a slew of other good players. Arenas was the best returner in the draft, and McCluster will give the AFC matchup problems at both running back and receiver.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-25-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

You are out of touch if you want a poll to secure your ? Planethood? Grow up man. You have devalued yourself....Why?

PhilFree

I don't need anyone to secure anything, Phil I'm not the one hiding behind the keyboard. I attend Planet functions, go on road trips with Planeteers, etc. I'm not hiding - I'm right here in the open.

What I would like, however, is the coward to stand behind his statement.

Shit like this has gone unchecked for too ****ing long.

Put up, or shut up.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-25-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

2009 is not good...especially since you took Sanchez when the team already spent a high 2nd on Cassel...****ing moron of a pick...

Beanie Wells is a good, yet obvious pick. When you take a RB early, he better be good.

Other than that...I see NOTHING that makes me think, "wow, I'd sure love to have that player on KC!"

and 2008...

you took Vernon Gholston #1 overall.

...

Matt Forte is a dime a dozen back...

Uh...

Avril and Nicks...good picks. Congrats.

Forte had almost 2000 yards from scrimmage as a rookie
Branch would have led our team in tackles last year
Goff is a starter on a really good front seven

From 2009, Sanchez is going to be a franchise QB

Beanie Wells went to Tampa who other people didn't think needed a RB. He wasn't an obvious pick

I had no second rounders and yet got 3 players in the 6th round or later who were picked in the third, including Terrance Knighton, who was an all-rookie performer.

That's not to mention guys like Brinkley or Harris, who would be perfect fits for this defense, or Thomas Morestead, who ruined the Super Bowl for your beloved Peyton.

Just Passin' By · 04-25-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

And in today's NFL it doesn't matter how devoid your roster is of talent. It's not a 5 year process anymore. It's from 1-3 tops in my humble opinion.

That said, I'm still firmly on the 8-8 or GTFO band wagon.

I posted this in another thread, and it's not aimed at you (save to show you the number part) so please don't take any offense where none is intended, but your 1-3 year notion is out of touch with the reality of the NFL:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...18#post6712918

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-25-2010, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

If we took Asomoah at 36, how would you have felt?

Moving the goalposts AGAIN?

We didn't. What's the point?

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 04-25-2010, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

I think it depends what kind of shape your roster is in once a new regime takes over.

3 years is a solid amount of time to build a team imo. Provided that a lot of things go your way. But it could take longer sometimes. It all depends Flop.

The only way it takes longer in my opinion is if your new GM decides to come in and completely ignore what little strengths the team has and scraps the whole thing and starts over.

I guess this fan base has decided since it hasn't won a Super Bowl in 40 years, 5 more to making the playoffs is no big deal. That's not good enough for me. Not that my opinion means shit anyways.

Hootie · 04-25-2010, 10:25 PM

I think Sanchez is going to end up being a bust...didn't see anything I liked from him last year...that team did everything they could to protect the fact they had no confidence in that guy throwing passes...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-25-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

If you're trying to tie your self worth to the few posters that actually like you on this board you are PATHETIC. I think you've become a better poster the last 6 months but please don't overrate yourself it could be embarrassing for you.

Go ahead and start the poll and if you lose will you actually leave this time?

Embarrassing for me?

Who are you, again?

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-25-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Why is it silly to compare, Dane?

Some of us were championing Schwartz as the new HC of the Chiefs.

He was hired at the same time as Pioli/Haley.

Why is it silly to compare two teams that started over, both with next to nothing on their roster?

It's silly to compare because the Lions have, for the most part, been at the bottom of the NFL for nearly a decade. They should have much more talent on their roster than the Chiefs, just due to draft position alone.

I would really like to avoid getting into a position by position analysis in this particular thread, but I'd take Albert over Backus, Waters/Asamoah over Barry Sims, and the turd I just cut over Gosder Cherilus.

I think Delmas is a player but I'll take Berry every time. They play a 4-3, we play a 3-4 so the LB position is different, I'd take our running backs, CB's, etc.

I think the Chiefs will be further along in the "process" (****, I hate the word) than the Lions in 2010 and 2011.

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

But the overall tone of this place is EXACTLY like last year.

Everyone hates the picks initially, (sans Berry and Asomoah) then begin to rationalize it because some pundits like it - instead of sticking to their opinion.

It happened after the Cassel trade, it happened after last year's draft, and it happened this weekend.

See, here's the thing: I only worry about me.

I form my opinions based on information I've gathered, whether it's from this site, SI, PFT, Playboy or Tube8.com.

It's ALL me.

Secondly, I put my ass so far out on the line each year that if I'm wrong, people either take shots at me, relinquish the fact that I'm right, or I have to fess up. Either way, I'm good.

I'm not trying to change anyone's perception when I post and I'm not trying to gain popularity.

This is the ONE place I can come and talk about the Chiefs freely, regardless of whether I'm right, wrong or indifferent because I'm basically on an island in SoCal. No one gives a shit about the Chiefs. It would be like if you were a die hard Dodgers fan living in St. Louis. Who would give a ****?

Chiefsplanet will alway be comprised by a majority of fans that see no wrong with what their hometown does because it's their hometown team.

I'm just a dude with an outsider's perspective.

Hootie · 04-25-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Moving the goalposts AGAIN?

We didn't. What's the point?

our first four picks were amazingly good picks...

that's been my point for three days now

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 04-25-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I posted this in another thread, and it's not aimed at you (save to show you the number part) so please don't take any offense where none is intended, but your 1-3 year notion is out of touch with the reality of the NFL:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...18#post6712918

Hey, shut me down and I'll give you credit. I only get offended at cheap shots because I don't take them. In other words, we're good.

And I understand the Super Bowl argument. But I'm saying that a team should be competing in the playoffs by the 3rd year, not making the Super Bowl. I didn't clarify that, and I should have. 5 years for a title is fine. But I don't expect a team to make the playoffs for the first time in a rebuild and win the Super Bowl in the same year. That's a tough thing to do.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-25-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I posted this in another thread, and it's not aimed at you (save to show you the number part) so please don't take any offense where none is intended, but your 1-3 year notion is out of touch with the reality of the NFL:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...18#post6712918

Excellent defense.

Link a post in which you were thoroughly owned, and backed away with your tail between your legs. It doesn't take 5 years to build a playoff team from scratch. And it should take even less when the Executive of the Decade is the one pulling the strings.

philfree · 04-25-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I don't need anyone to secure anything, Phil I'm not the one hiding behind the keyboard. I attend Planet functions, go on road trips with Planeteers, etc. I'm not hiding - I'm right here in the open.

What I would like, however, is the coward to stand behind his statement.

Shit like this has gone unchecked for too ****ing long.

Put up, or shut up.

I hope you had a life before you ever logged into the planet. This a great place if it's self defining for you then.....I'm sorry.

PhilFree

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-25-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I think Sanchez is going to end up being a bust...didn't see anything I liked from him last year...that team did everything they could to protect the fact they had no confidence in that guy throwing passes...

God knows there was nothing to like from him in the playoffs.

Hootie · 04-25-2010, 10:28 PM

how tall is OTWP in real life?

Hootie · 04-25-2010, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

God knows there was nothing to like from him in the playoffs.

watched all three games...

he had a good game against Cincy...although it was basically all from the play-action pass and the fact they had the #1 rush offense in the NFL...

The Colts game...

They had them.

HAD THEM

but they wouldn't take the diapers off of Sanchez and they played to not let Sanchez **** up rather than take a shot at going to the Super Bowl.

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