Weiss told Fox to take Clausen

[Hootie]

Aaron Rodgers and Brady Quinn fell into the early 20s...

Clausen fell to the middle of the 2nd round...

BIG DIFFERENCE...

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Aaron Rodgers and Brady Quinn fell into the early 20s...

Clausen fell to the middle of the 2nd round...

BIG DIFFERENCE...

Feel free to ignore the rest of the post.

And feel free to name the teams that had a desperate need at QB.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Feel free to ignore the rest of the post.

And feel free to name the teams that had a desperate need at QB.

Patriots
Bills
Dolphins
Redskins
Eagles
Cardinals
49ers
Broncos
Chiefs
Raiders
Seahawks
Ravens
Bengals
Steelers
Vikings
Panthers
Jaguars
Titans
Bucs

If any of those teams graded Clausen as a potential franchise QB, they could have all EASILY justified spending a 30-45 on their future QB...

Just like Chiefs fans claimed we should have done with Rodgers the year we drafted Johnson even though Green had a good 3-5 years left in him at that time.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Patriots
Bills
Dolphins
Redskins
Eagles
Cardinals
49ers
Broncos
Chiefs
Raiders
Seahawks
Ravens
Bengals
Steelers
Vikings
Panthers
Jaguars
Titans
Bucs

If any of those teams graded Clausen as a potential franchise QB, they could have all EASILY justified spending a 30-45 on their future QB...

Just like Chiefs fans claimed we should have done with Rodgers the year we drafted Johnson even though Green had a good 3-5 years left in him at that time.

Jesus Christ, this post reeks of stupidity.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Jesus Christ, this post reeks of stupidity.

Nice reply...

Patriots have no depth behind Brady, had an abundance of picks...and clearly could have developed him for three years to be Brady's successor, or to pawn him off to some other QB needy team (see Whitehurst, Charlie)...

Bills: Obvious

Dolphins: Obvious

Redskins: See Patriots.

Eagles: Kolb, Vick (you're telling me they didn't have a need for Clausen at that point in the draft?)

Cardinals: Leinart (you really think he's the future?)

49ers: Smith (you really think they don't have a need?)

Broncos: Tebow was drafted in the 1st...shows you how much people thought of Jimmy Clausen, a pro ready QB, as a franchise caliber player

Chiefs: Matt Cassel, Charlie Weis...when Clausen wasn't drafted...that didn't tell you anything?

Raiders: Before Campbell...they had Gradkowski and Russel...obvious need.

Seahawks: Hasselbeck is washed up, Charlie Whitehurst is who again?

Ravens: Flacco was eratic...lots of potential...but if they had Clausen graded as a franchise guy...hedging your bet with a 2nd round pick is exactly what we all wanted the Chiefs to do, right?

Bengals: Palmer is overrated and washed up...this decade's Drew Bledsoe...you don't think they wanted a Tom Brady situation backing up their overrated former #1 pick?

Steelers: Obvious.

Vikings: Obvious.

Panthers: Drafted him at #48...apparently according to OTWP they kept trying to trade up but no one wanted to move out of their picks (despite the trades)...so even though they were offering to move up from 48 to 32, and from 48 to 33, and from 48 to 34 etc. etc. etc. no one would bite and fortunately the #1 guy on their board fell all the way to #48...the Panthers and Hamas have tons in common!!!

Jaguars: Garrard is the future? Yeah, ok

Titans: Didn't Vince Young try and off himself two years ago? What else do they have? Kerry Collins? This wasn't a need for them? A franchise QB potentially?

Bucs: See Chiefs, Ravens...they took a guy last year...but if an Aaron Rodgers falls to the middle of the 2nd round...or to #39 where the Bucs traded up...he's not worth a $5M contract in case Freeman doesn't work out?

Exactly OTWP...

19 teams had legitimate reasons to draft a QB if they thought he had the ability to be a Super Bowl winning, Franchise caliber NFL QB.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Nice reply...

Patriots have no depth behind Brady, had an abundance of picks...and clearly could have developed him for three years to be Brady's successor, or to pawn him off to some other QB needy team (see Whitehurst, Charlie)...

Bills: Obvious

Dolphins: Obvious

Redskins: See Patriots.

Eagles: Kolb, Vick (you're telling me they didn't have a need for Clausen at that point in the draft?)

Cardinals: Leinart (you really think he's the future?)

49ers: Smith (you really think they don't have a need?)

Broncos: Tebow was drafted in the 1st...shows you how much people thought of Jimmy Clausen, a pro ready QB, as a franchise caliber player

Chiefs: Matt Cassel, Charlie Weis...when Clausen wasn't drafted...that didn't tell you anything?

Raiders: Before Campbell...they had Gradkowski and Russel...obvious need.

Seahawks: Hasselbeck is washed up, Charlie Whitehurst is who again?

Ravens: Flacco was eratic...lots of potential...but if they had Clausen graded as a franchise guy...hedging your bet with a 2nd round pick is exactly what we all wanted the Chiefs to do, right?

Bengals: Palmer is overrated and washed up...this decade's Drew Bledsoe...you don't think they wanted a Tom Brady situation backing up their overrated former #1 pick?

Steelers: Obvious.

Vikings: Obvious.

Panthers: Drafted him at #48...apparently according to OTWP they kept trying to trade up but no one wanted to move out of their picks (despite the trades)...so even though they were offering to move up from 48 to 32, and from 48 to 33, and from 48 to 34 etc. etc. etc. no one would bite and fortunately the #1 guy on their board fell all the way to #48...the Panthers and Hamas have tons in common!!!

Jaguars: Garrard is the future? Yeah, ok

Titans: Didn't Vince Young try and off himself two years ago? What else do they have? Kerry Collins? This wasn't a need for them? A franchise QB potentially?

Bucs: See Chiefs, Ravens...they took a guy last year...but if an Aaron Rodgers falls to the middle of the 2nd round...or to #39 where the Bucs traded up...he's not worth a $5M contract in case Freeman doesn't work out?

Exactly OTWP...

19 teams had legitimate reasons to draft a QB if they thought he had the ability to be a Super Bowl winning, Franchise caliber NFL QB.

You can repeat that garbage all you want, it's not going to make it any more realistic.

Please, post it again, I've been enjoying you go down in an epic blaze of stupidity over the past 72 hours.

Thanks for the cheap entertainment.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You can repeat that garbage all you want, it's not going to make it any more realistic.

Please, post it again, I've been enjoying you go down in an epic blaze of stupidity over the past 72 hours.

Thanks for the cheap entertainment.

Another great reply, buddy...

Out of those 19 teams, which one isn't realistic?

Or are you just completely dumb?

I listed the Patriots for one reason...they had 13 picks...if Weis is sharing information with anyone...or if anyone is on the same page with what the Chiefs are doing...it's the Patriots...

if Belichick thought Clausen was a franchise level QB...with all of those picks...they would have EASILY taken him around pick 40...EASILY...without a doubt...that's a value pick if I've ever seen one (assuming they have him graded highly)...and then they can get rid of Hoyer and pay their backup behind Brady $1.1M a year to be groomed by one of the best...

but since I'm CLEARLY right...I enjoy these responses where you have no rebuttal...

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Bills
Redskins
Cardinals
49ers
Broncos
Chiefs
Raiders
Vikings
Panthers
Jaguars

Those are the teams that could have taken Clausen.

You're an idiot for suggesting that the Bucs or Ravens need a QB.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Patriots
Bills
Dolphins
Redskins
Eagles
Cardinals
49ers
Broncos
Chiefs
Raiders
Seahawks
Ravens
Bengals
Steelers
Vikings
Panthers
Jaguars
Titans
Bucs

If any of those teams graded Clausen as a potential franchise QB, they could have all EASILY justified spending a 30-45 on their future QB...

Just like Chiefs fans claimed we should have done with Rodgers the year we drafted Johnson even though Green had a good 3-5 years left in him at that time.

I'm sure that the Bucs are going to give up on Josh Freeman after one year, the Redskins are going to come up and get Clausen with no picks from five through the end of the third round, that the Steelers and Ravens are going to give up on their QBs, the Bengals have one of the highest paid QBs in the league and a small payroll, the Titans' QB just took them to like 8-2 over the last ten games and the coach is coaching for his job, the Jaguars drafted Tyson Alualu at 10, FFS, the Dolphins are "sold" on Chad Henne.

Realistically, the argument that you should focus on is why San Fran, Buffalo, and Cleveland passed on him.

All would do a much better job of proving your point, but all also have rebuttals that need to be taken into account as well.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'm sure that the Bucs are going to give up on Josh Freeman after one year, the Redskins are going to come up and get Clausen with no picks from five through the end of the third round, that the Steelers and Ravens are going to give up on their QBs, the Bengals have one of the highest paid QBs in the league and a small payroll, the Titans' QB just took them to like 8-2 over the last ten games and the coach is coaching for his job, the Jaguars drafted Tyson Alualu at 10, FFS, the Dolphins are "sold" on Chad Henne.

Realistically, the argument that you should focus on is why San Fran, Buffalo, and Cleveland passed on him.

All would do a much better job of proving your point, but all also have rebuttals that need to be taken into account as well.

Exactly.

But that doesn't help his argument.