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**Tribal Warfare** · 04-30-2010, 04:31 PM

Ranking the decision makers: Who is best at the NFL draft?

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By Nate Davis, USA TODAY
So which franchise really stands the best chance to reap the most from its rookies now that the 2010 NFL draft has concluded? USA TODAY ranked the 20 league personnel executives who have been on the job for at least three years with their current team (the exception being Scott Pioli) to try and get a better idea as to who scores touchdowns in April, who settles for field goals and who coughs it up.

REPORT CARD: Grading the 2010 NFL draft class

1A. Bill Belichick, head coach/el jefe supremo, New England Patriots— Little point in arguing after he transformed a franchise that seemed to be in decline into a three-time Super Bowl champion virtually overnight. Clearly Belichick learned a lot after the five putrid drafts the Cleveland Browns produced during his tenure there in the 1990s. New England has become known for its deft ability to amass quality picks and find excellent players later in the process who won't come with the price tag of a top-10 pick. Belichick has made seven second-round picks over the last two drafts and picked up an extra Round 2 pick next year after extracting it from the Carolina Panthers for a low third-round pick last Saturday. Key contributors such as receiver Deion Branch, defensive end Jarvis Green, tackle Matt Light and cornerback Asante Samuel all came at pick 48 or later. But Belichick knows how to find first-round stars, too, including 2008 defensive rookie of the year Jerod Mayo and Pro Bowlers Logan Mankins, Richard Seymour and Vince Wilfork.

• Best pick: Tom Brady— The Patriots admit they got lucky finding him in the sixth round in 2000, but at least they were smarter than the 30 other teams that also passed on him multiple times. Probably the best value pick in the history of the NFL.

• Worst pick: Chad Jackson— The 36th pick of the 2006 draft only caught 13 passes for New England.

1B. Scott Pioli, GM, Kansas City Chiefs— He and Belichick are essentially inextricable when it comes to New England's ascendancy. It's too early to assess Pioli's tenure in K.C., though last weekend's haul looks to be among the best of the spring. But the Patriots' success on the personnel side is just as much a credit to Pioli's eye for talent as Belichick's. And the litany of players they plucked from college aside, Pioli and Belichick were masters of using picks as currency for established stars with depressed value (Corey Dillon, Randy Moss) and gems other teams didn't appreciate (Wes Welker). After a recent spotty draft record, the Chiefs were in desperate need of a draft craftsman like Pioli.

• Best pick: Matt Cassel— He barely played at USC, but Pioli took a flier on him in the seventh round of the 2005 draft anyway. Cassel proved in 2008 he can play at a Pro Bowl level, something Pioli is banking he will do for the Chiefs.

• Worst pick: Laurence Maroney— The 2006 first-rounder has never rushed for as many as 900 yards and probably never will for the Patriots, who have opted not to make him a featured back.

Ebolapox · 04-30-2010, 07:36 PM

this list? very presumptuous. way too soon to call pioli one of the best decision makers.

Reerun_KC · 04-30-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by YOUCANTKILLROR

Yes Marcellus, because the public has ALWAYS been known to be "ahead of the curve", right?

Guzzle boar-jizz; I know someone who can get you hooked up!

So what makes message board posters that much smarter than any other fan?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-01-2010, 11:00 AM

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So what makes message board posters that much smarter than any other fan?

Uh, because we eat, sleep, and breathe KCC football while this dumbshit works the sports-beat for McNews Today, 'mkay? Thx!

|Zach| · 05-01-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by YOUCANTKILLROR

Uh, because we eat, sleep, and breathe KCC football while this dumbshit works the sports-beat for McNews Today, 'mkay? Thx!

I think people here eat, sleep, and breath their own narrative of what the Chiefs are.

B_Ambuehl · 05-01-2010, 11:36 AM

Pioli was nothing but a myth/media creation conjured up by east coast writers. Belichik always called the shots for that team. It should be obvious based on Belichik's personality that he doesn't bow down to anyone or work "hand in hand" with anyone. Pioli was just along for the ride. If they're gonna call Pioli a bad ass they should should put the same all-star title on the assistants of guys like Ozzie Newsome and Ted Thompson. I am convinced Clark Hunts lack of football knowledge let to him being swayed by the media that Pioli really was everything they were saying he was. Not the first time a football team has made mistakes based upon myths.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-01-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Pioli was nothing but a myth/media creation conjured up by east coast writers. Belichik always called the shots for that team. It should be obvious based on Belichik's personality that he doesn't bow down to anyone or work "hand in hand" with anyone. Pioli was just along for the ride. If they're gonna call Pioli a bad ass they should should put the same all-star title on the assistants of guys like Ozzie Newsome and Ted Thompson. I am convinced Clark Hunts lack of football knowledge let to him being swayed by the media that Pioli really was everything they were saying he was. Not the first time a football team has made mistakes based upon myths.

That's gonna' leave a mark.

Pasta Little Brioni · 05-01-2010, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by YOUCANTKILLROR

That's gonna' leave a mark.

Not really, B isn't the brightest bulb. I'm now a Pioli believer after reading that tripe.

**Baby Lee** · 05-01-2010, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Love ChiefsPlanet but it is the sports version of the crazy fringe tin foil hat wearers in politics.

Are you somehow suggesting that those who don't share the opinion that Cassel was Pioli's BEST move is a fringe lunatic?

Pioli Zombie · 05-01-2010, 06:02 PM

Hmmmmm. Who has more credibility? Every football expert in the country,including media,players, and coaches? Or a group on Chiefs Planet? Hmmmmmmmm

TEX · 05-01-2010, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Hmmmmm. Who has more credibility? Every football expert in the country,including media,players, and coaches? Or a group on Chiefs Planet? Hmmmmmmmm

Hmmmmmmm......Ever hear what most of those same "experts" said about Ryan Sims? Ever hear what a group of Planeteers said about him?

For the record - I sitll think Matt Cassel blows no matter what the "experts" say. Moss & Co. could make any QB look good. When you think of what was available in the draft last year at QB, no way that deal should have been done. And if you choose to believe your "experts", then Belichik is # 1 and the whole Cassel to KC deal could mean that Pioli got owned...

Pioli Zombie · 05-01-2010, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Hmmmmmmm......Ever hear what most of those same "experts" said about Ryan Sims? Ever hear what a group of Planeteers said about him?

For the record - I sitll think Matt Cassel blows no matter what the "experts" say. Moss & Co. could make any QB look good. When you think of what was available in the draft last year at QB, no way that deal should have been done. And if you choose to believe your "experts", then Belichik is # 1 and the whole Cassel to KC deal could mean that Pioli got owned...

Will I will agree that given a choice I would put more faith in Belichick than in Pioli anyday. Belichick is a proven football GOD and Pioli still needs to prove himself, which I believe he will. I think its crap, however, when someone says ANYONE could have done in 2008 what Cassel did. That just shows football ignorance. Brodie Croyle would not have gone 11-5, thrown for nearly 4,000 yards, and had Patriot fans won over by seasons end. Give both Pioli and Cassel this year before you throw in the towel. If they don't go 8-8 blast away

**Tribal Warfare** · 05-01-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Brodie Croyle would not have gone 11-5, thrown for nearly 4,000 yards, and had Patriot fans won over by seasons end. Give both Pioli and Cassel this year before you throw in the towel. If they don't go 8-8 blast away

Dude Todd Collins could've done the same thing Cassel did in '08. Even Grbac with the NE offensive weapons on the Patriots could've pulled the exact same result.

Pioli Zombie · 05-01-2010, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Dude Todd Collins could've done the same thing Cassel did in '08. Even Grbac with the NE offensive weapons on the Patriots could've pulled the exact same result.

Total complete Bullshit and just shows you didn't watch many Patriots games in 2008.

**Tribal Warfare** · 05-01-2010, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Total complete Bullshit and just shows you didn't watch many Patriots games in 2008.

http://www.nfl.com/players/elvisgrba...e?id=GRB059326

http://www.nfl.com/players/toddcolli...e?id=COL694708

Yeah looking at their stats yep it could've happened.

Of course your a total Cassel fanboy it will fall on deaf ears

boogblaster · 05-01-2010, 08:49 PM

Well its easy to say we're a team in progress .. hopefully they come up with a NT and a couple LBs or its all for nothing ...

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