Football Broncos | Mcdaniels Compares Tebow To Brady

Quesadilla Joe · 05-10-2010, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

If this was the national intangibles league, tebow should rightfully go in the first round, but the fact is, he has 3rd round arm strength and 7th round mechanics.not to mention the offense he is accustomed to play in is very different than the nfl.

He has a stronger arm than Bradford, McCoy, and Clausen. I don't know where some posters get that he has a weak arm, every scouting report from respectable places always say he has a strong arm.

And I would argue that the reason most QB's bust isn't because they lack the talent, but because they lack the intangibles. Tebow has all the physical tools to succeed and has the work ethic to overcome all of his shortcomings IMO.

DBOSHO · 05-10-2010, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

He has a stronger arm than Bradford, McCoy, and Clausen. I don't know where some posters get that he has a weak arm, every scouting report from respectable places always say he has a strong arm.

And I would argue that the reason most QB's bust isn't because they lack the talent, but because they lack the intangibles. Tebow has all the physical tools to succeed and has the work ethic to overcome all of his shortcomings IMO.

Knomo dont lie.

If tebow fell to our 2a and we picked him you wouldve been laughing your ass off and would have about 200 posts why the chiefs are reeruns for picking him.

Quesadilla Joe · 05-10-2010, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

Knomo dont lie.

If tebow fell to our 2a and we picked him you wouldve been laughing your ass off and would have about 200 posts why the chiefs are reeruns for picking him.

I don't say many negative things about the Chiefs, but I don't think the Chiefs have the staff to develop a QB. Cassel regressed under Haley, Brady Quinn has been a bust in the NFL, and Jimmy Clausen was like the number 1 recruit in the nation coming into Notre Dame and he wasn't even drafted in the first round.

DBOSHO · 05-10-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I don't say many negative things about the Chiefs, but I don't think the Chiefs have the staff to develop a QB. Cassel regressed under Haley, Brady Quinn has been a bust in the NFL, and Jimmy Clausen was like the number 1 recruit in the nation coming into Notre Dame and he wasn't even drafted in the first round.

So let me get this straight.

The offensive coordinator who made brady great, who is widely recognized as one of the best qb coaches and creative minds the NFLs ever seen, who coached 2 first round talents into the nfl(clausen wouldve gone #1 overall if he had bradfords attitude; jurys still out on quinn. You may be right, but he played qb carousel in cle)

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the offensive coordinator who took the cardinals to the superbowl

arent talented enough to develop a quarterback? A quarterback whos protection failed him almost as much as the recievers did?

Quesadilla Joe · 05-10-2010, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

So let me get this straight.

The offensive coordinator who made brady great, who is widely recognized as one of the best qb coaches and creative minds the NFLs ever seen, who coached 2 first round talents into the nfl(clausen wouldve gone #1 overall if he had bradfords attitude; jurys still out on quinn. You may be right, but he played qb carousel in cle)

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the offensive coordinator who took the cardinals to the superbowl

arent talented enough to develop a quarterback? A quarterback whos protection failed him almost as much as the recievers did?

Weis didn't do anything worth noting with Drew Bledsoe. He was the OC way back in the 90's for NE and didn't do shit until Belicheat started filming signals.

Brady actually got better after Weis left and had the best season a QB has EVER had under the tutelage of McDaniels. Weis is not considered some mastermind or offensive genius. The Patriots won SB's by stealing signals and running the ball.

TheGuardian · 05-10-2010, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Weis didn't do anything worth noting with Drew Bledsoe. He was the OC way back in the 90's for NE and didn't do shit until Belicheat started filming signals.

Brady actually got better after Weis left and had the best season a QB has EVER had under the tutelage of McDaniels. Weis is not considered some mastermind or offensive genius. The Patriots won SB's by stealing signals and running the ball.

Brady got better because that's the normal learning curve for the NFL you ****ing moron.

**DaKCMan AP** · 05-10-2010, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Weis didn't do anything worth noting with Drew Bledsoe. He was the OC way back in the 90's for NE and didn't do shit until Belicheat started filming signals.

Brady actually got better after Weis left and had the best season a QB has EVER had under the tutelage of McDaniels. Weis is not considered some mastermind or offensive genius. The Patriots won SB's by stealing signals and running the ball.

It didn't have anything to do with the Patriots acquiring Randy Moss and Wes Welker...

Quesadilla Joe · 05-10-2010, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

It didn't have anything to do with the Patriots acquiring Randy Moss and Wes Welker...

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

So, let me get this straight.

Fitz, Breaston and Boldin made Warner look good, not Haley.

McDaniels made Brady look good, not Moss and Welker.

Tom Brady never had a QB rating above 86.5 when Charlie Weis was his OC, and had his WORST year the last year Weis was there.

In McDaniels first season as OC Brady had a 92.6 QB Rating without Moss and Welker, and had his worst group of receivers the following year and had a QB Rating of 87.9 (still better than any year under Weis). Then 2007 happened.

DBOSHO · 05-10-2010, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Weis didn't do anything worth noting with Drew Bledsoe. He was the OC way back in the 90's for NE and didn't do shit until Belicheat started filming signals.

Brady actually got better after Weis left and had the best season a QB has EVER had under the tutelage of McDaniels. Weis is not considered some mastermind or offensive genius. The Patriots won SB's by stealing signals and running the ball.

So why didnt orton throw for 4500 yards and 40 touchdowns?

Quesadilla Joe · 05-10-2010, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

So why didnt orton throw for 4500 yards and 40 touchdowns?

He had a better year than Tom Brady ever did under Charlie Weis.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-10-2010, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

So let me get this straight.

The offensive coordinator who made brady great, who is widely recognized as one of the best qb coaches and creative minds the NFLs ever seen, who coached 2 first round talents into the nfl(clausen wouldve gone #1 overall if he had bradfords attitude; jurys still out on quinn. You may be right, but he played qb carousel in cle)

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the offensive coordinator who took the cardinals to the superbowl

arent talented enough to develop a quarterback? A quarterback whos protection failed him almost as much as the recievers did?

Weis didn't make Brady great. BRADY made Brady great. Weis was just along for the ride.

Haley was the OC in name-only during the 2007 season and while it's true he called the plays in 2008, he was under the watchful eye of Ken Whisenhunt.

Haley sucked ass as the OC for the Chiefs in 2009.

TheGuardian · 05-10-2010, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I don't say many negative things about the Chiefs, but I don't think the Chiefs have the staff to develop a QB. Cassel regressed under Haley, Brady Quinn has been a bust in the NFL, and Jimmy Clausen was like the number 1 recruit in the nation coming into Notre Dame and he wasn't even drafted in the first round.

You post some stupid shit but this one takes the cake.

So Quinn is an NFL bust but the o-coordinator you're talking about made him look like a first rounder.

Our coach was the offensive coordinator that took the Cards to the SB and helped Warner look like the old MVP Warner again (Warner admits that Haley played a big part in this) and yet we don't have the staff to develop a QB?

****ing

Stupid

Quesadilla Joe · 05-10-2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Our coach was the offensive coordinator that took the Cards to the SB and helped Warner look like the old MVP Warner again (Warner admits that Haley played a big part in this) and yet we don't have the staff to develop a QB?

****ing

Stupid

Larry Fitgerald, Breaston, and Anquan Boldin made Kurt Warner look like the old MVP Warner. Warner didn't have a good OL in NY and his early days in AZ.

I will rep your last post in this thread for being unbiased about Tebow, but I have to wait 24 hours until I can give out any more rep.

**DaKCMan AP** · 05-10-2010, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Larry Fitgerald, Breaston, and Anquan Boldin made Kurt Warner look like the old MVP Warner. Warner didn't have a good OL in NY and his early days in AZ.

I will rep your last post in this thread for being unbiased about Tebow, but I have to wait 24 hours until I can give out any more rep.

So, let me get this straight.

Fitz, Breaston and Boldin made Warner look good, not Haley.

McDaniels made Brady look good, not Moss and Welker.