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tooge · 06-15-2010, 10:26 AM

Tebow continues to struggle with mechanics
Posted by Mike Florio on June 15, 2010 12:12 PM ET
We recently pointed out Peter King's article in the latest issue of Sports Illustrated, which features a close look at the ongoing effort to make Tim Tebow into an NFL quarterback.

Among other things, King's article shows that Tebow has been slipping into his old throwing motion during some practice reps.

As Mike Klis of the Denver Post points out, this fact conflicts with coach Josh McDaniels' insistence that Tebow has shown no problems with his mechanics.

We get the impression that, while the Broncos will continue to try to ensure that Tebow demonstrates proper mechanics at the NFL level, the team is willing to accept the fact that, from time to time, he'll rely on the muscle memory resulting from thousands and thousands of throws made with his prior motion.

But that doesn't mean the Broncos won't try to change him -- or that they'll pretend that the effort to do so already has been completed.

**alpha_omega** · 06-15-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

... Peyton Manning couldn't outwork Tebow on Peyton's best day.

I understand (and even appreciate in some deranged way) your blatant homerism, but don't you think that's going a little too far?

**DaKCMan AP** · 06-15-2010, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

FYP

They're synonyms.

ClevelandBronco · 06-15-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Because in the NFL, the stats will not remain good if the mechanics are poor.

And more critically, even if the stats do remain good, will you ever truly trust the guy? If Tebow managed to be a 60% passer at the NFL level with his current mechanics I'd be two things:

1) Stunned.
2) Terrified if I were a Broncos fan that those wonky mechanics will put him in a horrid position to make a throw at the worst possible time.

Again - mechanics are often about making a play when things aren't going right. With great mechanics, your arm can still come through at different angles and complete passes naturally. With that weird ass hitch that Tebow has, he's not going to be able to make some plays with his body in strange positions.

The mechanics matter.

Your first point is just fine. It's based on nothing but a guess, but it's your guess, so what the hell. Guess away.

The second point is silly. It's never going to matter a bit whether his mechanics strike terror in the hearts of Broncos fans.

Your third point should have been your second point and you should have just left the silliness out.

DJ's left nut · 06-15-2010, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Your first point is just fine. It's based on nothing but a guess, but it's your guess, so what the hell. Guess away.

The second point is silly. It's never going to matter a bit whether his mechanics strike terror in the hearts of Broncos fans.

Your third point should have been your second point and you should have just left the silliness out.

Duely noted.

Have fun watching that guy double clutch his way out of the NFL.

Tiger's Fan · 06-15-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

This isnt only the dumbest post in this thread, it may be the absolute dumbest post Ive ever read.

Naw, on second thought it isn't and that is soooooo sad.

Is it really any dumber than refering to Herm Edwards as a good head coach?

CoMoChief · 06-15-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

It’s 30 minutes after the Denver Broncos completed a June minicamp practice on a warm day in the Rockies.

Future Hall of Famer and team leader Champ Bailey is relaxing near the entrance to the team’s locker room, about to enjoy the air conditioning and a post-practice meal.

Bailey suddenly points to a figure on a distant field. A solitary player remains at work.

It’s Tim Tebow.

“See that?” Bailey asks. “That’s Tebow. It’s long after practice and he’s still out there. That’s what he does. That’s not for show. He’s not just doing that because the media is here today. He does that every day.”

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...ows-work-ethic

He has to stay after practice to learn how to throw a football.......got it. Shit i bet Jake Plummer's better at throwing left handed than Tebow is.

Hope he starts come Sept!!!!!!!!!

ClevelandBronco · 06-15-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

...Hope he starts come Sept!!!!!!!!!

There's no one on the planet — including his mother and the guys responsible for drafting him — that has ever considered for a moment that he'd start in September.

King_Chief_Fan · 06-15-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Tebow will learn whatever it is he has to. Peyton Manning couldn't outwork Tebow on Peyton's best day.

Tebow and all that work and still won't compete with Peyton

ClevelandBronco · 06-15-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

He has to stay after practice to learn how to throw a football...

I remember reading about how Raymond Berry would stay for hours after practice trying to catch balls that were intentionally thrown so that he couldn't catch them. I imagine he might have a different opinion than you do regarding the importance of dedication, drive and work ethic.

cardken · 06-15-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by talastan

Yes where he releases the ball, how high his arm is held; all of these are important. Especially when you have NFL pass rushers reaching for the ball every time you drop back to pass.

The sidearm release didn't hurt Rich Gannon, an MVP if you recall. He has enough athleticism to be productive, we will have to wait to see how successful.

**kysirsoze** · 06-15-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

I remember reading about how Raymond Berry would stay for hours after practice trying to catch balls that were intentionally thrown so that he couldn't catch them. I imagine he might have a different opinion than you do regarding the importance of dedication, drive and work ethic.

Obviously it's important, but all the hard work in the world doesn't mean he'll be a good QB. It just means he'll be better than he is right now.

CoMoChief · 06-15-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

I remember reading about how Raymond Berry would stay for hours after practice trying to catch balls that were intentionally thrown so that he couldn't catch them. I imagine he might have a different opinion than you do regarding the importance of dedication, drive and work ethic.

You can be the hardest worker and most dedicated person on the planet, and that won't mean shit if you lack overall talent.

ClevelandBronco · 06-15-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Obviously it's important, but all the hard work in the world doesn't mean he'll be a good QB. It just means he'll be better than he is right now.

That's all his employers are asking for at the moment.

CoMoChief · 06-15-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cardken

The sidearm release didn't hurt Rich Gannon, an MVP if you recall. He has enough athleticism to be productive, we will have to wait to see how successful.

Gannon and Tebow have MUCH different throwing motions.

Can't even believe you brought that up as an example.

CoMoChief · 06-15-2010, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

That's all his employers are asking for at the moment.

Way to trade up to draft a project!

06-15-2010, 10:26 AM
tooge MVP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Liberty, MO Casino cash: $604112	Sup with Tebow Knowmo? Tebow continues to struggle with mechanics Posted by Mike Florio on June 15, 2010 12:12 PM ET We recently pointed out Peter King's article in the latest issue of Sports Illustrated, which features a close look at the ongoing effort to make Tim Tebow into an NFL quarterback. Among other things, King's article shows that Tebow has been slipping into his old throwing motion during some practice reps. As Mike Klis of the Denver Post points out, this fact conflicts with coach Josh McDaniels' insistence that Tebow has shown no problems with his mechanics. We get the impression that, while the Broncos will continue to try to ensure that Tebow demonstrates proper mechanics at the NFL level, the team is willing to accept the fact that, from time to time, he'll rely on the muscle memory resulting from thousands and thousands of throws made with his prior motion. But that doesn't mean the Broncos won't try to change him -- or that they'll pretend that the effort to do so already has been completed.
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